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Helen thorley in real in 1935
« on: Monday 20 May 19 08:46 BST (UK) »
Helen Thorley was godparent at family christening when lived in.Deal, at st Andrews parish church, trying to find connection between her and my grandmother, has anyone researched family tree and come across her?

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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 May 19 09:55 BST (UK) »
I have no idea if this is who you are after but I have found the following

Helen Esther Mary Rye born 16/01/1909
father Sheppard George Rye
mother Lizzie Rebecca Randall Rye, nee Long

Helen married
1) 1932 to Gilbert Grown Kent
2) 1955 to George Francis Thorley Newberry Berkshire/Hampshire
Helen's death 1987 and she then resided in Whistable

Gilbert Growns died 1953

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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 May 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
If she signed as Helen Thorley in 1935 then we would need to find someone who was either born with that surname or had married into in by 1935.  I am not finding anyone obvious.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 May 19 12:28 BST (UK) »
No I don't think so as she was thorley in 1935, but thank you. I found one born in 1903, but as say sure if maiden or married name. She would I assume have been in Deal at the.time.

 


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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 May 19 12:51 BST (UK) »
Perhaps she wasn't local. Is it definitely Thorley? Not Thurley?
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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 May 19 13:12 BST (UK) »
The writing is quite curled but it definitely looks like a closed 0.





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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 May 19 13:15 BST (UK) »
Can you post a clip of the handwriting?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 May 19 13:15 BST (UK) »
I don't want to confuse things for you but a Godparent did not have to be present - someone could stand proxy on their behalf

They also could just be friends or neighbours
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Helen thorley in real in 1935
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 May 19 12:35 BST (UK) »
Helen Thorley was the only recorded witness at St Andrew's church, Deal on 10th June 1935 at the baptism of Hazel Beryl Howis, daughter of William & Alice Howis, Collier of 113, College Road, Deal.
I can find no record of Helen's baptism in records of other churches so it must be assumed that she was baptised in another parish.

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