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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:04 BST (UK) »

This is the reason I queried a second marriage for Louisa Mary Powell/Innell

Dec 1915
Louisa M INNELL
Name on same page
John PENSOTTI
   
Louisa Mary PENSOTTI      Birth year   1860
Age at death   72y   
Burial date   20 Jan 1932
Burial place   Morden Parish, Surrey County, England
Street address   11 Kersley Street
Residence   Battersea Place   Morden Parish County   Surrey

London Electoral register has John & Louisa PENSOTTI  living at 11 Kersley Street Battersea from 1918 also at this address in 1929  Ethel Adelaide INELL (dau of John Inell & Louisa)

Her  bpt along with sister Louisa

Ethel Adelaide & Louisa Mary INNELL were both baptised
25 Nov 1883 Hampstead Christ Church Camden,
Father John Mother Louisa Mary

1891 Piece 173 Folio 176
John INELL 30
Louisa 30 Hampstead
Ethel 9 Hampstead
Louisa 6
John  1
Alice 7 wks


Not found Ethel to confirm mmn

INNELL, LOUISA  MARY  mmn   POWELL 
1883  D Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 354

NNELL, ADA  MINNIE  mmn   POWELL  - Ada died age 4
1886  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 391

INELL, JOHN  EDWARD  mmn   POWELL 
1889  J Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 411
 
INNELL, ALICE  ELIZABETH  mmn   POWELL
1891  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 452

Yes, you are correct - thank you. I was kindly given the PENSOTTI surname association some while ago, but it did not sink in. What does it all mean please - the name-change & everything?

My parents used to to take me to visit Ethel at Battersea when I was very small, she was of an advanced age in those days, I think living in an alms house. I was told Ethel was my grandmother's sister or something like that?

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:12 BST (UK) »

Yes, you are correct - thank you.

I was kindly given the PENSOTTI surname association some while ago, but it did not sink in.

What does it all mean please - the name-change & everything?


I would assume that Louisa Mary Powell's husband John Edward Innell has died and she remarried

Dec 1915   
Innell    Louisa M    Pensotti    Wandsworth    1d   2070    
Pensotti    John    Innell    Wandsworth    1d   2070

The marriage doesn't  appear to be online to check who she has named as her  father

EDIT - possible death of husband John

Jun 1911
Innell   John   age 51   Hampstead   1a   337

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:26 BST (UK) »
John & Louisa Mary's daughter Winifred gives address as 11 Kersely Street when she marries in 1921

Winifred Sarah Innell age 22 address 11 Kersley Street married Francis George Watson on 17th Dec 1921 in Battersea  her father John Innell deceased



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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:55 BST (UK) »
John & Louisa Mary's daughter Winifred gives address as 11 Kersely Street when she marries in 1921

Winifred Sarah Innell age 22 address 11 Kersley Street married Francis George Watson on 17th Dec 1921 in Battersea  her father John Innell deceased

Understood, thank you.

So I may have Watson relatives?

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 26 May 19 19:16 BST (UK) »
There is a "George Hunt, Shoeing Smith, 1882, Life Guards" listed at the below link, which is interesting in the context of the leather-working profession which comes up for this family?

George Hunt 'soldier' appears as the father of Louisa Mary Powell (age 23) on her marriage certificate of 1883, to John Innell of Hampstead.

Properly, the term ought to be 'trooper' if so, but I doubt such fine detail was observed all the time?

https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/namesearch/?FirstName=George&Surname=HUNT&RecordType=VictorianConflicts&RecordDateStartYear=1857&RecordDateEndYear=1899&Step=1

Correction: I'm wrong - 'shoeing-smith' seems to be an alternative name for a farrier.


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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 26 May 19 19:52 BST (UK) »
He's also listed here as:

No.847 Shoeing Smith, HUNT, George, Egyptian Campaign 1882.

Very few searches seem to recognise or show second names.

https://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/british_household_cavalry/2nd_life_guards_1882_egypt_campaign.htm

Is there limited library access to any of these armed forces sites please?

Thank you.

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #33 on: Monday 27 May 19 01:56 BST (UK) »
I have a possible result for George Hunt's father from a source unrelated to RootsChatCom. I haven't got the details for this information. The result is as follows. My comments in brackets -

Marriage: 23 March 1840 St George, Camberwell, Southwark
George Hunt, Full Age, Bachelor,
[Profession?] Spinner, George Street, [groomís father?] James Hunt, Grinder
Susannah North
[bride's maiden name?], Full Age, Spinster, George Street, [brideís father?] John North, Corn? Porter?
Wit: C Stevens, Mary Ann North
By Banns.  Groom & Bride sign X


Suddenly had a thought about what father & son's profession was at this stage, were they street knife-grinders, one of the recorders must have been at a loss to describe this occupation so they put down 'spinner' to describe the grinding wheel?

Knife grinders were a common sight in Victorian London, this image from the 30's probably shows one Bert Smith, a Romany knife grinder.

https://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/TGA/TGA-201011/TGA-201011-3-1-123-9-1_10.jpg

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #34 on: Monday 27 May 19 02:30 BST (UK) »
Donít know about spinner. Itís really not clear on the image which is on Ancestry.

Clip attached
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: HUNT, George - soldier born 1841
« Reply #35 on: Monday 27 May 19 10:39 BST (UK) »
If your George Hunt was still serving with the army in 1861, he will be one of these:

754   Trooper   1st Dragoons
1459   Trooper   7th Hussars
582   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards
6393   Private   2nd Coldstream Guards

537   Private   29th Foot
3661   Private   30th Foot
2037   Drummer / Fifer   45th Foot Depot
558   Private   62nd Foot Depot
2369/891/1653   Private   107th Foot
790   Gunner   3rd Brigade R.A.
343   Corporal   5th Brigade R.A.
903   Gunner   5th Brigade R.A.
1043   Gunner   Coast Brigade R.A.

471   Trooper   7th Dragoon Guards
4372   Gunner   Horse Brigade R.A.

Cross referencing this list with "Stations of the British Army" for January 1859 (Louisa born 9 months later) allows us to eliminate those soldiers whose units were overseas or otherwise distant from London at the time of the liaison. This leaves us with the two soldiers in the 2nd Coldstream Guards, and the artillerymen, which I have highlighted in bold.
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