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A confusing definition of genealogy
« on: Thursday 23 May 19 10:31 BST (UK) »
I was looking for a simple explanation of the difference between genealogy and family history and found this confusing statement on Wikipedia.

"Although generally used interchangeably, strictly speaking, "genealogy" begins with a person who is usually deceased and traces his or her descendants forward in time, whereas, "family history" begins with a person who is usually living and traces his or her ancestors."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy

It's nice to know that we can continue our interests after death. I wonder if you get reduced subscriptions.

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Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

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My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 May 19 11:14 BST (UK) »
As I understand it  from what I was taught many years ago, “Genealogy” is  just researching ones ancestral line, concentrating on names and  dates. ‘Family History” is the wider research of the family, their past and their social history.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:46 BST (UK) »
I was looking for a simple explanation of the difference between genealogy and family history and found this confusing statement on Wikipedia.

"Although generally used interchangeably, strictly speaking, "genealogy" begins with a person who is usually deceased and traces his or her descendants forward in time, whereas, "family history" begins with a person who is usually living and traces his or her ancestors."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy

It's nice to know that we can continue our interests after death. I wonder if you get reduced subscriptions.

Martin

I like your tongue-in-cheek comment Martin!   ;D
Of course, this is just a case of sloppy syntax.  What the writer should have said was "strictly speaking, "genealogy" begins with a person who is usually deceased and is a method of tracing his or her descendants forward in time, ......."  So that you can then quote "this is the genealogy of AB".

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:57 BST (UK) »
A hate it when my tongue-in-cheek comments go unnoticed.  Well done.

Martin
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Watson, (Bedlington, Jarrow & Hartlepool);
Ballard & Glassop (E. London); 
Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

I use GRAMPS v5.0 software. 

My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 May 19 17:08 BST (UK) »
No subscriptions needed Martin as we can get our information straight from the horses mouth - excuse the pun please  ;D ;D

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 May 19 17:18 BST (UK) »
A hate it when my tongue-in-cheek comments go unnoticed.  Well done.

Martin

Keep them coming Martin!
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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 May 19 20:06 BST (UK) »
No way I'm still doing all this once I'm dead, it's someone else's job then as far as I'm concerned.  ;D
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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 May 19 20:24 BST (UK) »
As I understand it  from what I was taught many years ago, “Genealogy” is  just researching ones ancestral line, concentrating on names and  dates. ‘Family History” is the wider research of the family, their past and their social history.

This is my understanding as well. Hence people like heir hunters would practice genealogy but not family history, which covers so much more information. If genealogy is the bare wood of the tree, family history is the twigs and leaves. All family historians practice genealogy, but not all genealogists practice family history.

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Re: A confusing definition of genealogy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 May 19 21:57 BST (UK) »
Couldn't agree more Ayashi.

You have summed it up in a nut shell.

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Patrick, Fife
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Leslie, Fife
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