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Elwyn Wride
« on: Saturday 25 May 19 12:53 BST (UK) »
Elwyn Alexander Wyatt Wride born 1888-1956 Cardiff Wales, parents Thomas Wyatt Wride and Mary Mason.  Sometime before World War 1 Elwyn moves to the USA. On the 1920 census Elwyn is single and living in Minnesota with Lawrence H Schroder and Le Roy R Lee, also states that Elwyn came over to the States in 1905.

Now I am confused, Elwyn must travel back to Wales sometime or maybe several times,on the 2nd October 1936 he travels from Southampton to New York, with him is a Marion Wride. Yes you may well think she would be his wife, look below.  There is no other female in the family of that time called Marion.

I do not have full membership to ancestry so went to the library this morning came back with this information which I have been trying to get my head though.

Elwyn A Wride
Male White
Age 39
Marriage registration (marriage)
Birth date 13th Aug 1888
Birth place Wales
Marriage date 20th Aug 1927
Indiana United States
Father Thomas Wride ?
Mother Sophia Wride ?
(Thomas and Sophia were his Grandparents)
Spouse Willoween Baker Godfrey
P 398
Willoween's parents were called John and Gertrude Baker, Willoween was born on the 27th Jan 1895 Michigan
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Willoween Baker
age 23
Born abt 1895
Michigan
Marriage date 3 rd March 1918
Place Ann Arbor Michigan
Resident Ypsilanti Michigan Father John Baker, Mother Gertrude Wilcox
Spouse Chas Sherwood
no 10257
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Willoween Ride (I think they mean Wride)
(Willoween Baker)
age 42
Marriage registration (marriage)
Birth date 27 Jan 1895
Somerset Micigan
Marriage date 27 March 1937 Place Indiana
Father John A Baker, Mother Gertrude Wilcox
Spouse William S Morton
p 485
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Willoween B Godfrey
Marriage date 3 March 1918
Place Ann Arbor Michigan
Decree date 2 July 1924
Wayne MichiganSpouse Charles S Godfrey
No of children 1
Devorce status granted
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Willoween dies in 1980 betails below
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26871551/willoween-duell

Now her surname is Duell????

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What I have gathered Willoween divorces Charles in 1924, marries Elwyn in 1927, fine but looks like she gets married in 1937 to William Morton no mention of him afterwards, and where does the surname Duell come from?  Then there is Marion Wride in 1936.  Why Elwyn names his Grandparents as his parents?  His father does marry 4 times, his mother Mary Mason was Thomas's 3rd wife.

Any assistance to sort this out would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:10 BST (UK) »
There is a WW1 Draft Registration card for an Elwyn Alexander Wride (b 1888, Cardiff) showing him as single but with 2 children dependent on him. Working as a book-keeper and living in Ohio.

Just to confuse things there is an Elwyn Wride born 1897 in Utah.  ::)
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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:33 BST (UK) »
Willoween & William & William's mother in the 1940 census?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K41T-GB6

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:37 BST (UK) »
The image of the marriage between William & Willoween says she was married once before and gives the date of divorce as March 9, 1934.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-8158-WY3?i=274&cc=1410397

On the image, Willoween's marriage with Charles is crossed out - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6P7Z-TS2?i=86&cc=1452395  I don't know if that means it didn't take place or they divorced or what?

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:43 BST (UK) »
There's a mention of Willoween with surname Deull - https://www.newspapers.com/clip/31907495/willoween_baker_deull/

A marriage announcement for Willoween "Ride" and William S. Morton - https://www.newspapers.com/clip/31907518/willoween_ride/

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:44 BST (UK) »
She reported being divorced once as of her marriage to Elwyn - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X3DC-FC?i=199&cc=1410397

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 May 19 15:49 BST (UK) »


Could this be Elwyn Wride in Canada -  married in Red Deer Alberta 1911 ?

Elwyn Wride 23 Welsh. Imm 1905.
Esther Wride 18
Hiram Barker  28
George Hunter 40
Chris Levins 40
E L Stevens 57

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001930935.jpg

Alberta, Canada, Marriages Index,1898-1942 - E. A. W. Wride - Esther Welch - 1910 - Calgary Alberta.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001930935.jpg

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 May 19 15:59 BST (UK) »
It appears Elwyn married in 1910 to Esther Welch. They had 2 children. They divorced in 1916.

1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB8-TK5Q

Naturalization: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVR6-Z44Q

WWI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6F7-H55

The Cincinnati Enquirer
Cincinnati, Ohio
26 Sep 1916, Tue    Page 8

Divorce: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/31909499/elwyn_a_wridedivorce_1918/

Another article dated 28 Nov. 1916 states Esther was awarded a divorce.

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Elwyn gets married to Olga M Johns on in 1936 Minnesota

 The Minneapolis Star
Minneapolis, Minnesota
09 Jul 1936, Thu    Page 16

Marriage: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21472121/the_minneapolis_star/

Elwyn & Olga Marion
Passenger list 1936: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24K4-P6N

1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS2D-W6W

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Re: Elwyn Wride
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 May 19 16:14 BST (UK) »
Marion O Johnson Willis - Genelogy Bank Obituary - 22 April 1993
Husband Jackson C Willis.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5R-KRP6

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