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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 26 May 19 07:54 BST (UK) »
Starting to just search randomly now!

About Haile Homestead
In 1854, the Thomas and Serena Haile and their children moved to Gainesville, Florida, from Camden, South Carolina. They brought with them 56 slaves that built their 6,200 square foot home. With the house being over 150 years old, it stands as a silent testament to the skills of the laborers that built it. These laborers worked at the 1,500-acre Sea Island cotton plantation the house sits on. After the death of Thomas and Serena, their son Evans took over the homestead and hosted many parties and gatherings there.

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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:01 BST (UK) »
hmm. Thomas HAILE born So Ca (south Carolina?) and his father b Va (Virginia?) mother So Ca

Serena   all So Ca


modified, there are trees on ancestry for this family.
1. there are plenty of them so why would Evans Haile want to adopt a (very distant) niece from Wales
2. They seem to go back several generations in the US on all branches - so VERY VERY distant
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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:04 BST (UK) »
maybe you need to visit!


TALKING WALLS
What makes the Historic Haile Homestead unique in the Nation?
Talking Walls!
 
The Hailes had the unusual habit of writing on their unpainted walls. Documented in 2001, the walls revealed over 12,500 words and artwork in almost in every room including the closets! The oldest dated writing was found upstairs in the Trunk Room where young Benjamin wrote his name in 1859, shortly after the house was officially completed. Writing by family members included personal observations, names of visitors, growth charts of children and grandchildren, recipes for household solutions, inventories of linens, silverware, china, business records and prose. The visitors to the weekend and holiday house parties at the turn of the 20th century were the most prolific wall writers. The walls of the Music Room and Parlor are adorned with over 150 individual writings on each wall. Just two years ago we discovered a new wall of writing which had been covered up my plasterers in the 1990s restoration! We invite you to explore this unique historic treasure where the walls speak to you through time!
 
A compilation of some of the most interesting and humorous writing from the Talking Walls is available for sale at the house.
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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:14 BST (UK) »
Interesting but wouldn't really line up with an uncle if his family was all born in America including Thomas' father.

There is only one family member apart from Susannah's mother Mary Owens father (Mary being illegitimate and listed in the 1841 census as Mary Watkins then Owens daughter of Anne Owens in all after) who may be the relation and that's her great aunt Jane Owens but she and her husband would most definitely have been dead in the early 1900's.

It could be that this Uncle wasn't of Gainesville but from somewhere else and the story has been twisted.

Modified: As to the photo dating there are 2 Feinburg photos on the net, one from c1895
https://www.disabilitymuseum.org/dhm/lib/catcard.html?id=671
and the other from 1910
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t8D1XnAIB-Y/U7sFHIxVEGI/AAAAAAAAhGA/AGHTeKrwMCw/s1600/622.jpg
however both are dramatically different in style to the one of Susannah

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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:22 BST (UK) »
The other thing about Evans HAILE is that he was born in 1870, so only four years older than Susannah.

Does seem odd though that here we have both Gainsville and Evans and Money. Just no connection!

 
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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:23 BST (UK) »

Modified: As to the photo dating there are 2 Feinburg photos on the net, one from c1895
https://www.disabilitymuseum.org/dhm/lib/catcard.html?id=671
and the other from 1910
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t8D1XnAIB-Y/U7sFHIxVEGI/AAAAAAAAhGA/AGHTeKrwMCw/s1600/622.jpg
however both are dramatically different in style to the one of Susannah

and the mounts are quite distinctive.  That's what I think a professional dater would help you with.

There were at least 3 Feinberg photographers. with overlapping addresses
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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:24 BST (UK) »
Not that this answers your question, but the Kips were quite interesting.  Here is an article about their castle in Montclair, NJ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip%27s_Castle_Park
Yes they were quite the interesting family, trace back to Germany if I'm not mistaken as well and traveled back and forth between UK and USA quote a bit.

As to the census info thanks for that. Had a quick look at the index and seems to be nothing there. Maybe as I posted just before the Gainesville thing is a red herring and this uncle wasn't from there.

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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:37 BST (UK) »
going back to basics

you say (as I interpret it)

Susannah LLOYD b 1874 mother is Mary WATKINS in 1841 and then Mary OWENS? (because Mary illegit dau of Ann WATKINS who then married Mr OWENS?)

Why is Susannah's surname LLOYD?  Did Mary marry as OWENS or WATKINS?



its ok, i've finally found your tree
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Re: Looking for photo Date Susannah Lloyd - USA
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:51 BST (UK) »
going back to basics

you say (as I interpret it)

Susannah LLOYD b 1874 mother is Mary WATKINS in 1841 and then Mary OWENS? (because Mary illegit dau of Ann WATKINS who then married Mr OWENS?)

Why is Susannah's surname LLOYD?  Did Mary marry as OWENS or WATKINS?



its ok, i've finally found your tree
haha, yeah bit confusing. The John Watkins I have listed as the supposed father to Mary is only a possible link and determined by a banns record showing a John Watkins and Anne Owens intent of marriage, however no marriage record exists, so assume something may have happened to stop the marriage taking place, or is the wrong person, but census details does tie it up with the 1841 Watkins name to Mary.