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Offline judb

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Re: Read family Wiltshire to Australia
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 07:42 BST (UK) »
This doesn't help at all in finding Edgar but I have a couple of theories

1. As already suggested he may have died in 1837 before registration was compulsory.  As his baptism was recorded late in April 1837 his birth would have been before compulsory registration.  If he had died, though, I would have thought he would have been buried at Donhead and for the burial to have been recorded, especially as he had been baptised. 

2. As Edgar was almost certainly only a baby when his mother died I wondered if he may have been cared for by someone else, and perhaps his surname changed.  I had a look and could not see any child with forename Edgar anywhere in the 1841 or 1851 census who could be him.

Seems most probable that he died as a baby.

There is a page on Ancestry which lists emigrants leaving the Donheads from 1788 to 1923.  The entry for 1838 mentions:
John Read and Mary Ann Burridge, and John, son of John's prev marriage. - no mention of Edgar.

I found it interesting that a number of people with surname Ingram and/or Read  were on this 1938 list (John's first wife being an Ingram):
Henry Ingram and Jane Chant and 3 children
Rice (sic) Ingram and Jane Haskell
Charles Read (according to Ancestry, probably brother of John Read) and Louise Ingram (arr Oct 1838, per John Mclellan)
Thomas Bugden and Elizabeth Read and 2 children

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Re: Read family Wiltshire to Australia
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith,

Thanks very much for your post. I have seen several passenger lists but not the one you mention, which very specifically indicates that John is a son from a previous marriage. So that is very helpful and confirms that he is definitely the one b.c1833 to John Read and Sarah Ingram. Which record collection is it in, please, as I can't seem to find it on Ancestry when I do a search?

I'm not sure of the connection between Sarah Ingram and the Louise/Louisa Ingram who married Charles Read (although there must be one - too much of a coincidence otherwise). I expected them to be sisters but they aren't. However, I do know that Rice Ingram is Louisa's brother...perhaps Henry is as well. My interest is mainly in the Read family, rather than the Ingram family, so I have not researched them extensively. I must say, I have never known a village quite like Donhead St Mary for families intermarrying!

I think I have to conclude that Edgar died young. I'm not surprised that I can't find a death registration for him because, as you say, it could well have occurred prior to compulsory registration. I am more surprised that there isn't a burial record, but it could just be that it has not been transcribed. Anyway, I am fairly comfortable assuming that he died young even without this confirmation.

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