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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 26 May 19 17:15 BST (UK) »


I didn't find Edith or Mark's death or burial place


Edith R Gildea

Providence Journal
Providence, Rhode Island
October 4, 1956

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nuh/

Thank you, that is useful information, gives the name of her son Earl, her only survivor.

From the obits of Earl & his wife Helen is appears they didn't have any children.


Springfield Union
Springfield, Massachusetts
September 27, 1974

Death Notice: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nul/

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Springfield Union
Springfield, Massachusetts
April 27, 1982

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01num/

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sandra, I have carefully gone through all that information.

I have lost Jane Smith born 1860 Marple, Stockport, England ...  Jane is on the 1875 census in Johnston, Providence, Rhode Island, USA, living with her parents and siblings, but Alice isn't.


Jane is in North Smithfield with her parents in 1880

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4SV-PH2
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 26 May 19 18:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sandra, I have carefully gone through all that information.

I have lost Jane Smith born 1860 Marple, Stockport, England and her sister Alice Smith born 1862 Stockport, England.  Jane is on the 1875 census in Johnston, Providence, Rhode Island, USA, living with her parents and siblings, but Alice isn't.

There is a possibility that Jane is the same person as a Jane Smith on a New York passenger list, birth date about 1860, departure location Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland.  Arrival location, New York.  Arrival date, 3rd May 1880.

I am fairly certain it is Joseph Smith who died age 15 in Johnston, Providence, Rhode Island, in 1874.

Yes, that looks about right - FIND A GRAVE - also noted in your other thread replies 12 and 13  ;)

Joseph Smith Jnr 10 July 1874. Aged 15 years.

North Burial Ground Providence, Providence County, Rhode Island.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125399780

My last sighting of Jane was 1880 with parents as oldohiohome has just pointed out.

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #21 on: Monday 27 May 19 14:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the Find a Grave link to Joseph, I hadn't seen that.  Also the 1880 census for Jane, which shows she worked in a cotton mill.  I will follow up with googling the history of the area and cotton mills in Rhode Island, as Oldohiohome suggested, "lots of local color background on Slatersville and the mills there, if you are interested in that end. Just Google the village name - it is where they were in 1880  if you look at the image. It is a village within North Smithfield"

Jane after 1880 and Alice I struggled to find them with no success.

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #22 on: Monday 27 May 19 16:54 BST (UK) »
could this be Alice?

Deaths
SMITH, ALICE        age: 0 
GRO Reference: 1862  D Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 3
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 May 19 17:07 BST (UK) »
could this be Alice?

Deaths
SMITH, ALICE        age: 0 
GRO Reference: 1862  D Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 3

That looks likely yes.  She disappears from records early on.

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #24 on: Monday 27 May 19 17:08 BST (UK) »
and could this be Jane? Woonsocket borders N. Smithfield, and both bride and groom resided in Slatersville. Not sure yet why they would go to Woon. to be married. Choice of denomination maybe?

Marriages registered in Town of Woonsocket, RI
March 18, 1885

Johon McMackin, 29, occupation: operative, born in Glascow [sic], Scotland, parents: Peter and Catheine McMackin
Jane Smith, 23, no occupation, born in  England, parents: Joseph and Jane Smith

both residents of Slatersville. first marriage for both. married by Charles J White, clergyman

"Rhode Island, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1630-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8K7-838 : accessed 27 May 2019), John McMackin and Jane Smith, 18 Mar 1885; citing Marriage, Woonsocket, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, Rhode Island State Archive, Providence City Archives, city and town clerk offices; FHL microfilm 2,315,559.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #25 on: Monday 27 May 19 17:17 BST (UK) »
The church in Slatersville was and is Congregational.

Charles J White was Universalist:
In 1900
at 141 Blackstone Street, Woonsocket
Charles J White, 64, born May 1836, minister

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9W7-PR8

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WHITE CHARLES J. (D.D.)
"Chosen pastor of the Universalist Church - 1870. Pastor emeritus -1905."

http://rihistoriccemeteries.org/newgravedetails.aspx?ID=334369
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: Joseph and Jane Smith and family, Providence, Rhode Island.
« Reply #26 on: Monday 27 May 19 17:19 BST (UK) »
and could this be Jane? Woonsocket borders N. Smithfield, and both bride and groom resided in Slatersville. Not sure yet why they would go to Woon. to be married. Choice of denomination maybe?

Marriages registered in Town of Woonsocket, RI
March 18, 1885

Johon McMackin, 29, occupation: operative, born in Glascow [sic], Scotland, parents: Peter and Catheine McMackin
Jane Smith, 23, no occupation, born in  England, parents: Joseph and Jane Smith

both residents of Slatersville. first marriage for both. married by Charles J White, clergyman

"Rhode Island, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1630-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8K7-838 : accessed 27 May 2019), John McMackin and Jane Smith, 18 Mar 1885; citing Marriage, Woonsocket, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, Rhode Island State Archive, Providence City Archives, city and town clerk offices; FHL microfilm 2,315,559.

Definitely her.  Thank you.