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Maria Jane Ruff
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 10:11 BST (UK) »
 I am looking for a record of the first marriage of Maria Jane Ruff born 1848 in Portsea. She remarried on 22nd April 1900 to George Williams as a 'Widow' . Her name on the cert was Maria Jane Matthews Any assistance greatly appreciated. David 

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 10:35 BST (UK) »
So she’s Maria Jane Ruff, mmn Hickox, birth reg Mar qtr 1848 Portsea.

Have you looked for her in any census pre-1900?  Did she have children predating the marriage to George Williams, so far as you know?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 10:41 BST (UK) »
I see that her parents were William (labourer) and Mary, per 1851 census.

She’s still with them in Portsea in 1861 - William (stone mason) and Mary.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 10:56 BST (UK) »
I can find her aged 3 in the 1851 census. Aged 13 on the 1861 census. Not with her mother on 1871 census. I do know if she had any children pre marriage to George.

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 11:03 BST (UK) »
Some flexibility about surnames gives the following possibility in the missing years:

1881 (Portsea)

Maria MATHEWSON Wid 33 Staymaker b Portsmouth
Margaret M do Daur 5 Scholar b Chatham (reg Dec qtr 1875 as Margaret Mary MATTISON mmn RUCK).

1891 (Portsea)

Maria MATHEWS Wid 43 Staymaker b Portsmouth
Margret Mary do Daur 15 b Chatham
Kate Elizebeth do Daur 14 b Portsmouth
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 11:07 BST (UK) »
Margaret Mary “Matheson” marries in Portsea, 17 Aug 1896, naming her father as David Matheson, Quarter Master R.N.

One of the witnesses is Catherine Elizabeth Matheson, presumably her sister “Kate”.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 12:06 BST (UK) »
Wondering if this is the father?

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7947410

Appears on 1851, b Lydd, with parents Archibald (in the Coastguard) and Catherine

Birth 22 Oct 1842, joined up 1873 and died 27 August 1876 in Melville Hospital

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 12:11 BST (UK) »
Wonder if they did marry, given this birth registration

RUFF, CATHERINE  ELIZABETH      
Q4  1876  PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 489

No mother's maiden name listed

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Re: Maria Jane Ruff
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 12:15 BST (UK) »
Here she is in 1881

Mary Ruff    62
Eliza Henwood    40
Daniel Gawn    15
Katherine Ruff    4 - granddaughter

RG11; 1139; 11; 15