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Issobell Innes
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 13:47 BST (UK) »
I have reason to believe that Issobell Innes born 1 March 1640 was the illegitimate daughter of  William Innes and Elspet Innes while still married to Issobel Innes

You expertise is again required for the atttached extract.

William in Montreal.

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 16:39 BST (UK) »
Definitely illegitimate - first line and a bit reads:

William Innes and Elspeth Innes ane docht[er] in fornicatioun
Her name Issobell

I can make out some of the other names, but will leave to others for now!

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 19:25 BST (UK) »
I feel that fornication is a rather weak word if this were a case of adultery. Maybe it is a different William Innes. Would Isobel Innes appreciate a child born in adultery being given her name?

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 22:41 BST (UK) »
I think that this is not the right forum to discuss this. I can re-post to the appropriate place.

In the meantime if someone could read this extract for me then perhaps the names shown might lead me to the right decision.

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 06:25 BST (UK) »
Williame Innes and Elspet* Innes ane doch(tor) in fornicationn

hir name Issobell andro homsonne George King andro King

Thomas neshell nicolas Binstonne and [pa(tri)k? wacku?] godfa(th)(ers)



* Does Scotland's People transcribe this as Elspet?

The capital letter looks to me more like a G than an E.

You can see the similarities to the G in George.

I acknowledge that the one in George doesn't have the upper loop, but that loop is more characteristic of a G of this time, and is not at all characteristic of an E.

However, I don't have an E to compare it to, so I will defer to SP if they say it's an E.

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 08:32 BST (UK) »
It is definitely Elspet.

Although it looks like "homsonne", I wonder if it could be a poorly written simsonne (I can't find any surname that resembles Homson).

The last name is patrick walker. The l is like the l in Elspet.

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 May 19 10:22 BST (UK) »
It is definitely Elspet.

Although it looks like "homsonne", I wonder if it could be a poorly written simsonne (I can't find any surname that resembles Homson).

The last name is patrick walker. The l is like the l in Elspet.
I wasn't convinced about 'homsonne' either - there are a few Howieson's kicking about at that time, with various spellings.

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 May 19 11:59 BST (UK) »
I wasn't convinced about 'homsonne' either - there are a few Howieson's kicking about at that time, with various spellings.

I'll be more than happy to let you do all the Scottish transcriptions then.

Since you are all over this stuff, why didn't you do the full transcript when you posted initially?

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Re: Issobell Innes
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 May 19 12:04 BST (UK) »
Homson, Thomson?

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