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Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« on: Wednesday 29 May 19 11:19 BST (UK) »
The above was one of 9 children of George Wynn or Winn (1847-1919) and Annie Gamsby ( 1848-1928), her name recorded as Winn, mother GAINSBY, Registration Auckland on GRO.
There seems to be some controversy about whether she married Ralph Bell Q2 1898 at Durham, the 1939 register shows both were born in 1878 so either she was telling fibs or she married someone else or passed away? There are 10 trees on Anc that give her birth as 1877/78.
I'm beginning to think that she didn't marry Ralph Bell?
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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 11:25 BST (UK) »
What details exactly have you found of the Bells’ entry in 1939?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 16:04 BST (UK) »
If you had the marriage you would know if her father was George, his occupation and where she was living at the time plus witnesses all of which might help solve the problem.

Not unheard of to say you were a little younger or could her parents have had a previous Ann who died that she was named after?

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 16:11 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the Annie that married Ralph is this one?

1891

Richard Wynn 49
Mary 47
Robert 21
Elizzie 19
Mary 15
Annie 13

her birthplace matches that of the wife of Ralph Bell but as I say the marriage with her father's name could be crucial in sorting out which Annie she was.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 16:17 BST (UK) »
I think it's a different one to be honest.

Your Annie born 1881 may have married a Mr Watson. 
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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 17:24 BST (UK) »
Baptisms Merrington St. John the Evangalist:

28 Apr 1878 John George Wynn, of Merrington, s/o George, Quarryman, and Annie Wynn
25 Dec 1879 William Wynn, of Merrington, son of Goerge, labourer, and Annie Wynn
25 Dec 1882 Annie Wynne, of Merrington, daur of George, labourer, and Annie Wynne
4 May 1884 Alice Wynne, of Merrington, daur of George, labourer, and Annie Wynne

1891 census
RG12/4072/104 pg 44

George Wynn, Head, Mar, 40, Engine Fitter's Labourer, Yorkshire, Low Caldon
Annie Wynn, Wife, Mar, 40, Durham, Merrington
William Wynn, son, 11, scholar, Durham Merrington
Annie Wynn, daur, 9, scholar, Durham Merrington
Alice Wynn, daur, 8, scholar, Durham Merringotn
Flora Wynn, daur, 7, Durham Merringotn
Fred Wynn, son, 4, Durham Shildon
Elizabeth Wynn, daur, 4, Durham Shildon
Frances Wynn, daur 1, Durham Merrington

Do any of the 10 trees on Anc. have any certificates at all?

Is your interest in Roger Bell and who he married or Annie Wynn daur of George and who she married?

Janis

Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 May 19 09:17 BST (UK) »
My interest is in Annie as above. I don't want to include Ralph Bell if she didn't marry him. I don't want to buy a marriage cert for the Bell marriage as if it'd the wrong marriage for Annie then no use to me.
At 1939 Ralph's dob was 30 Mar 1878 and Annie's 7 Aug 1877.
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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 May 19 11:41 BST (UK) »
By the way, thank you 2zpool for finding the children's baptisms, I couldn't find them on Anc or Freereg?
Milliepede I think you may be right about the Watson marriage. The problem with the Winn family is that they keep changing their surname from the original Wind!
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Re: Ann or Annie Wynn or Winn b Q2 1881 Merrington
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 May 19 12:44 BST (UK) »
I think Milliepede may be correct about the WATSON marriage. Followed by a marriage to Bob/Robert HUTCHINSON Mar qtr 1916 in Durham reg. district? On the 1939 they seem to be with a now married daughter from the 1911 census.

Maureen