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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #189 on: Sunday 12 April 20 13:22 BST (UK) »
you seem to be the only one doing actual reearch on them.

Why in the last 40 years didn't someone even look to see who the one at Trinity was and from where??   LIMERICK.

I havenít really researched these Stuarts yet, but I probably will eventually, hence my interest in the thread.  For now, Iím just trying to help out.  I have done some work on the Stewarts of Ballintoy, but theyíre only connected by marriage.

I didnít look up Trinity record because I wasnít interested and/or hadnít the time.  Perhaps the OP didnít know about Alumni Dublinensis.  Also, I wasnít born 40 years ago :P

In defence of Amy Young, she does discuss where Henry Stuart and the Irwins were from later in her book.  I just hadn't had the time to read that far when I posted the extract.


Hutchinson's Legacy had to be dealt with in London and terms changed ... What year was it and What was outcome?

See below:

Hutchinson died in 1740.  The Dobbs report was done in the 1790s.  Betham didnít come to Ireland till about 1805.

Francis Dobbs was married to one of the Stewarts, so that probably helped him.  A lot of the research seems to have been done by interviewing people about their families.


Did you read George's Will ?  Anything interesting in it?

Haven't read it!

Not yet!  Iíve made a note so I will get to it when Iím next researching the Stewarts.  ;)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #190 on: Friday 09 October 20 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Iíve been reading through this thread and I was hoping perhaps someone in this group might be able to assist with a project Iím working on. I am looking for the parents of Martha Stewart, born probably in the early 1680s and the wife of Walter Lindsay of Cahoo, Co. Tyrone. I have a copy of a letter she wrote to her cousin, Rev. Richard Dobbs of Trinity College, in 1730 (via PRONI). Rev. Dobbs, by all accounts, was the son of a Mary Stewart of Ballintoy. With that I am making the leap that Marthaís father was a brother of Mary Stewart. Online genealogies suggest she had one brother named Archibald, who had two sons, Rev. Archibald and Alexander. In the letter Martha mentioned visiting with ďDoc (Deacon?) Stewart and his bro AlickĒ, whom I am assuming are the two sons of Archibald. Given the wording of this, Martha was probably not their sister, but clearly she and Richard Dobbs were familiar with them and were likely closely related. This implies that Mary and Archibald Stewart had another brother who would be Marthaís father.

In all of the research on the Ballintoy Stewarts has anyone come across more detail on this particular branch? Any and all suggestions or hints would be welcome and greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
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Turner, Webb, Wilson, Cooper, Gilbert, Nadin, Repton, all in the Burton-Upon-Trent vicinity.

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #191 on: Friday 09 October 20 18:34 BST (UK) »
I can't answer your question exactly, but I'll send you a PM!


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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #192 on: Sunday 18 October 20 15:54 BST (UK) »
I found a ref to a tablet
https://archive.org/stream/ulsterjournalofa05ulst/ulsterjournalofa05ulst_djvu.txt
(4) I have seen a very interesting note in the handwriting of the late Charles G. Stuart, J. P., Ballyhivistock, wherein he traces his family to a Robert Stuart, a relative to James I., who obtained lands in the County Cavan at the Plantation. His grandson William raised at his own expense a regiment, still known as "Stuart's Regiment," which fought under William III., but the expenses of which the king never refunded. Rev. Irwin Stuart was his grandson, and the present Charles M'D. Stuart, is great grandson of the erstwhile curate of Derrykeighan. There is a tablet in the parish church " to the memory of Major-General James Stuart, C.B., after nearly fifty years of Indian service, during many of which he filled the arduous and responsible office of Military .Secretary to the Government. This veteran soldier returned to his native land, where, on the 19th July, i8s9, aged 75 years, he fell asleep, full of faith in the atoning blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I've just bought Thomas Camac's History of the Parish of Derrykeighan (1908, reprinted 1930), where he goes into a bit more detail than he did in the UJA article:

I have copied a very interesting document in the hand-writing of the late Chas. Geo. Stuart, Ballyhivistock, in which he traces his lineage thus Ė Robert Stuart got a grant of that part of Co. Cavan now in the possession of Lord Farnham, from his relative James I.  He was drowned in the passage between Calais and Dover, returning from the Court of the King of Sardinia, where he was sent as Ambassador.  His grandson William succeeded to the grant and lands, and took an active part in the Revolution, raised the 9th Foot, still called Stuartís Regiment, and fought at the siege of Derry and the battles of Aughrim and the Boyne in support of King William.  From the very heavy cost of raising and paying this regiment, the charge of which William never refunded him, he was obliged to sell the estate, and his son William succeeded him, who had several sons and daughters, and Irwin Stuart (curate of Derrykeighan), his grandson, came with his sister, Mrs. McDaniel, to Ballylough and Bellisle, and had issue James Chas. McDaniel (rector of Dunluce), Archie and Christopher, and several daughters.  Jamesí issue Ė Henry Irwin, William, died as captain of Artillery, and James in India and daughters.  Charles McDanielís issue Ė Samuel, Charles, James, and Eliza.  Archibald, three sons and four daughters, all the sons died Ė Charles as a lieutenant in the Marines, and Alexander as a lieutenant in the 32nd Regiment at Corfu, and Archie in the West Indies.

This may be supplemented by saying that there is a tablet in Dervock Church which reads, ďTo the memory of Major-General James Stuart, C.B., after nearly 50 years of Indian service during many of which he filled the arduous and responsible office of military secretary to the Government.  This veteran soldier returned to his native land where, on the 19th July, 1859, aged 75 years, he fell asleep, full of faith in the atoning blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.Ē  Major General James Stuart, Staff Officer, Londonderry, is buried in Dervock churchyard, and was brother of Chas. Geo. Stuart.  It may here be mentioned that the last-named gentlemanís son, Leslie, has lately been appointed to the distinguished position of Rear-Admiral in the British Navy.

                                                                                             
Many of the details don't match, but there was a Colonel William Stewart, commander of the 9th Regiment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Steuart_(British_Army_officer)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #193 on: Sunday 18 October 20 16:11 BST (UK) »
Ohh good find!! Iíve seen some of that before but not with so many details. I was hoping to find the Burkeís Peerage of 1958 edition but itís not available online. It apparently has more on this Stuart line.
Stuart (India, Antrim, Armagh)
Whiting (Bedfordshire)
Dunn/Taylor (Worcestershire)
Pearson (Worcestershire)
Hill/Rhodes (Worcestershire)
Gough (Warwickshire)
Perry (Devon, Worcestershire)
Maynard (Essex, Yorkshire)
Jennings (Devon)
Coldicott (Warwickshire, Gloucestershire)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #194 on: Sunday 18 October 20 16:57 BST (UK) »
It's probably Burke's "Landed Gentry of Ireland" 1958 you need (maybe that's what you meant?).  I was trying to find a copy the other day myself, but gave up.

Here's another extract from Camac's History of Derrykeighan:

[p67]  BALLYNAFEIGH AND MONTRAGEE were held by Thomas Bourke nearly two hundred years ago, but were shortly afterwards sold to John Henry, of Brevallin, by Lord Antrim.  Henry, who lived at Cloverhill, was High Sheriff for the County in 1763, and kept extensive bleaching concerns at the Livery.  His tombstone in Ballymoney churchyard is inscribed thus:

   Here lieth the Remains of
   John Henry Esq
   Who died 27 February 1773
Aged 73 years.  Also Margaret Henry
   His wife who died 11th of June 1802 aged 79 years
Also Alexander Henry Esq.
Son of the above who died 13th Jan 1810
Aged 55 years.

Archibald Stewart, of Mostragee (brother of Rev. C. McDaniel Stewart, Rector of Dunluce) married Henryís daughter, and had issue Elizabeth, who married Rev. Robert Longhead, minister of Second Presbyterian congregation, Ballymoney.  Margaret married Daniel McKay, of Mosside, Fanny married Captain Hall, and Jane married Dr. Beatty, whose daughter married to ____ Hanna, agent to Lord Antrim.


According to Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Archibald Stewart married Jane, daughter of Alexander Henry.  The dates may make more sense if she was his sister.

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #195 on: Sunday 18 October 20 17:06 BST (UK) »
Yes! Burkeís Landed Gentry is what I meant. I think they are available at some libraries but none close to me so thatís too bad. I should contact my library and ask if they can have it sent over from another. Not sure if thatís possible especially with the pandemic.

It seems youíve really hit the jackpot. Thanks so much for sharing.

Do you know if the project going on in to restore the lost records will include Wills?
Stuart (India, Antrim, Armagh)
Whiting (Bedfordshire)
Dunn/Taylor (Worcestershire)
Pearson (Worcestershire)
Hill/Rhodes (Worcestershire)
Gough (Warwickshire)
Perry (Devon, Worcestershire)
Maynard (Essex, Yorkshire)
Jennings (Devon)
Coldicott (Warwickshire, Gloucestershire)

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #196 on: Sunday 18 October 20 17:16 BST (UK) »
Do you mean the project to "restore" the archives destroyed in 1922?  It is an exciting project, and it probably will include some wills, but they can't recreate the many unique records which were destroyed, only those for which copies were stored elsewhere.

Just following up on Archibald Stewart/Stuart of Mostragee...

Belfast Newsletter, 17th Sep 1811:
On the 4th instant, Mr. WM. BEATTIE, Surgeon, Dervock, to the agreeable Miss JANE STUART, daughter of Archibald Stuart, Esq Portrush.

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Re: James Stuart CB of Gracehill
« Reply #197 on: Sunday 18 October 20 20:16 BST (UK) »
Looking at Jane Henry and Archibald Stuart. It makes a lot more sense for Jane to have been Alexander Henryís sister and not his daughter. She was supposedly born in 1750 and he in 1755.
Stuart (India, Antrim, Armagh)
Whiting (Bedfordshire)
Dunn/Taylor (Worcestershire)
Pearson (Worcestershire)
Hill/Rhodes (Worcestershire)
Gough (Warwickshire)
Perry (Devon, Worcestershire)
Maynard (Essex, Yorkshire)
Jennings (Devon)
Coldicott (Warwickshire, Gloucestershire)