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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 May 19 16:29 BST (UK) »
My paternal grandparents were first cousins,it's how people got to know each other back then,through family.

Their father's were brothers,the two nearest in age in fact,barely 2 years apart.
It makes family tree slightly easier to do as you only have one line to follow on that side  ;D

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #10 on: Friday 31 May 19 19:50 BST (UK) »
They are still your Great Grandfathers. However, it does mean your mother and father were 1st cousins!

Does it not mean that the OP's maternal grandparents, her mothers parents, were the first cousins?
I agree with Gan Yam. CleGirl's maternal great grandfathers were brothers; her maternal grandparents were 1st cousins. Her father, I assume was not related by blood to her mother.

Thanks all.

Correct, my father was not related by blood to my mother.

I spoke with my mom and she said my grandma (her mother) says the she and my grandpa were second cousins. ???

I have double-first cousins: my mom and her sister married brothers. So I'm guessing that the idea they were second cousins is because the brothers were in the previous generation??

Not worried about health or genetics, just trying to figure this out. I had never heard of the pedigree collapse, so went and looked that up. As Carol18353 says, less work on part of the family tree :)


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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #11 on: Friday 31 May 19 20:13 BST (UK) »
First cousins have a grandparent in common. Second cousins have a great-grandparent in common.
Did the great-grandfathers who were brothers each have the same mother and father?

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #12 on: Friday 31 May 19 20:39 BST (UK) »
First cousins have a grandparent in common. Second cousins have a great-grandparent in common.
Did the great-grandfathers who were brothers each have the same mother and father?

Ah, then there you go, my grandparent WERE second cousins as they had great-grandparents (not grandparents) in common.

To answer your question, yes, the great-grandfathers who were brothers had the same mother and father.

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #13 on: Friday 31 May 19 21:10 BST (UK) »
Ah, then there you go, my grandparent WERE second cousins as they had great-grandparents (not grandparents) in common.

Now I'm confused. That conflicts with what you told us.
This thread has the title "Yikes! My maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!" I understood you to be referring to your great-grandparents on your mother's side, i.e. your mother's grandparents. Your latest post has introduced more generations of great-grandparents.  ??? ??? Starting with yourself as generation number 1 and working backwards, to which generation did the 2 brothers belong?

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 May 19 21:14 BST (UK) »
I've just discovered that my mom's maternal grandfather AND her paternal grandfather were brothers!

This is a postscript to my previous post. Repeat. If her 2 grandfathers were brothers, her parents (your grandparents) were 1st cousins. That is quite clear.  (Quite as in perfectly.)

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #15 on: Friday 31 May 19 21:56 BST (UK) »
 ;D My maternal g/grandmothers were twins. Nana and granddad's Scottish wedding certs notes them as cousins
Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Nixon, Sharp, Greaves, Naters
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara
Lincs - Smith, Vinter

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, , Stewart, Conway, Heather,

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #16 on: Friday 31 May 19 22:05 BST (UK) »
;D My maternal g/grandmothers were twins. Nana and granddad's Scottish wedding certs notes them as cousins
They should have got out more.  ;D

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Re: YIKES! My Maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!
« Reply #17 on: Friday 31 May 19 22:25 BST (UK) »
Ah, then there you go, my grandparent WERE second cousins as they had great-grandparents (not grandparents) in common.

Now I'm confused. That conflicts with what you told us.
This thread has the title "Yikes! My maternal Great Grandfathers Were Brothers!" I understood you to be referring to your great-grandparents on your mother's side, i.e. your mother's grandparents. Your latest post has introduced more generations of great-grandparents.  ??? ??? Starting with yourself as generation number 1 and working backwards, to which generation did the 2 brothers belong?

Yes, this is different from what was said at the beginning.  Maybe it was just a typo and should have said "my mother's great grandfathers...." rather than "My maternal great grandfathers....."   Anyway - it's all clear now!
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