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Offline dragonlady403

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No record of death in NZBDM
« on: Sunday 02 June 19 17:32 BST (UK) »
Hi there - I wonder if someone with a much better developed skill set than mine obviously is could possibly assist???  I mean, seriously, it should be a simple thing that I apparently haven't managed to master:(

I know Edmund Herne Cording born in England 1789 died in New Zealand (Wellington area) on 31st Oct 1842~!  But I have been unable to find a record of his death in NZBDM despite trying a few name variations.

Aside from the obits in the paper I have this nugget of info... although I am not sure it would affect the actual recording of the death would it?

Anglican ChurchBirth    1789
Death    1842 (aged 5253)
Wellington, New Zealand
Burial    Body lost or destroyed, Specifically: Burial Location Unknown
Memorial ID    184323034 View Source

I can't find a specific birth record for him to confirm the info I have for his parents in the UK; so wanted to verify the facts against his death cert. 

As always, any assistance greatly appreciated:)
Regards, Carol
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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 June 19 20:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,

Not good news. This from the NZ BDM website........

"Births and deaths have been officially recorded since 1848".


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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 June 19 20:43 BST (UK) »
This looks like his death recorded in the newspaper

 "Died. On Monday, the 31st- October, and buried on the Sunday following, Mr. Cording, after an illness of about three weeks. "

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?snippet=true&query=cording&start_date=01-01-1842&end_date=31-12-1842

In those days it would have been unusual to wait almost a week before burial

Cheers Janette

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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 June 19 12:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks anyway:( 

Yes I had that bit of information Janette... but was hoping to locate an actual death cert in order to validate family information that I have.

Oh well, I guess I will turn to other sources.

Thanks  for the input as always!!!
Regards, Carol
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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 June 19 05:31 BST (UK) »

This web page maybe of interest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_in_New_Zealand

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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 June 19 16:00 BST (UK) »
Interesting information!
Thanks,Regards, Carol
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Wilkes- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 June 19 11:10 BST (UK) »
The following is the link to the Petone Settlers Data, Petone Museum which may be of interest if you have not already seen it:

http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Leisure--Culture/Museums-and-galleries/Our-museums/petone-settlers-data/DisplayPerson/?Id=100140&SearchString=cording&SearchYear=&Page=1

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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 June 19 12:20 BST (UK) »
Oh wow - that link is fantastic!  Thanks very much.  I  obtained their last London address which may prove useful... but more importantly, this comment caught my eye "Relationship to Settlers    COUSIN !".

I am interpreting that comment that Edmund Herne Cording had relatives in NZ who were earlier arrivals.  I wonder if there is a way to verify that and who they may have been.

THANKS:)
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Wilkes- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
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Re: No record of death in NZBDM
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 June 19 14:58 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
St Pancras, Middlesex
Sub Reg District Somers Town***
Edmund Cording 50 Carpenter
Ann Cording   45
Jane Cording   25
Sarah Cording   13
Susan Cording   11

Ann/Jane not born in County.

Marriage;
22 Oct 1810, St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington, Kensington and Chelsea, Middlesex
Edmund CORDING to Ann MIDFORD

Jane Cordings Marriage Cert is on Anc 1842 to George Edmund Blaker.


Ann Eleanor Midford
Baptism Date:   2 Sep 1792
Baptism Place:   Jarrow, Durham, England
Father: Edwd. Midford
FHL Film Number:   894911

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