Author Topic: Help with burials 1804 Riegersdorf ( Modrá) North Bohemia BAUMANN (German)  (Read 286 times)

Offline fiddlerslass

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Hi
 Please can someone help with the occupation of these 2 and the cause of death.
 Theresia Baumann(in) Feb 2, 1804  house 43,  and her husband Johann Baumann Oct 30th K.K. ?fabrikuber something?
On his daughters marriage he is a K.k. oberaufseher in Eulau (now Jílové) - is that some sort of inspector?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XKGJ-99?i=9&wc=3N8Y-6YM%3A979674501%2C979675001%2C981964101%2C981966001&cc=1804263

Thanks.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

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Re: Help with burials 1804 Riegersdorf ( Modrá) North Bohemia BAUMANN (German)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 June 19 23:04 BST (UK) »
Hi

Theresia Baumann: I read "Tobaküberreuterin" or "Tabaküberreuterin"
Johann Baumann: I read "Tobaküberreuter" or "Tabaküberreuter"

I'm not sure with "Tobak" or "Tabak" but with "überreuter".

Search for "Tabaküberreuter" or "Tabaküberreiter" on google books
and ANNO (Austrian Newspaper Archives of the Austrian National Library).

http://anno.onb.ac.at/anno-suche#searchMode=simple&from=1

The Tabaküberreuter had to observe smugglers of tobacco
https://digi.landesbibliothek.at/viewer/image/AC02003968/534/LOG_0139/

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Re: Help with burials 1804 Riegersdorf ( Modrá) North Bohemia BAUMANN (German)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 07:08 BST (UK) »
That is really interesting! I'd never heard about it.

I found a German article on Wiki, which gave the following information:

The Überreiter were special police forces for stopping the smuggling and theft of monopoly goods (incl. tobacco and cobalt). They were entitled to search and inspect goods. The badly paid Überreiter were at the lowest level of the civil service; their main sources of income were the "denunciation shares" from seizures and fines. As a result, the Überreiter not only had an extremely poor reputation among the common folk, they were also unpopular with the authorities due to overstepping their own authority and interefering with the jurisdiction.

I am not entirely sure what they mean by "denunciation shares", but their pay obviously came from the results of their work, i.e. the sale of the goods and the fines paid by the smugglers.

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Re: Help with burials 1804 Riegersdorf ( Modrá) North Bohemia BAUMANN (German)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hi

Cause of death : Theresia  -  Abzehrung. - emaciation, consumption
                         Johann. -  Geschwulst. -  Tumor

Oberaufseher. -  supervisor.  It goes like this, Aufseher , then promotions to Oberaufseher and Hauptaufseher. It works the same way for teachers, doctors, nurses etc.

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Re: Help with burials 1804 Riegersdorf ( Modrá) North Bohemia BAUMANN COMPLETE
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 10:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone who replied - now I know  about the Austrian tobacco monopoly and smuggling - something I had not come across before!
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR