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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Minniehaha. I am very grateful. I am doing this because Kiwi my son-in-law is related to the late Bernard Sydney Rowe and has had difficulty in obtaining any info about him from here in the UK and you have discovered a treasure trove, in particular about his parents Sydney and Olive St Hill.
However there are a couple of queries arising from the fount of data you have uncovered and I wonder if you can help further. I am really grateful for all you've done already.
1 In Sydney's attestation papers  dated September 1914( the correct ones not the one in Nelson who is certainly not the correct man) he says his wife is Violet whereas the parents of Bernard Sydney Rowe are Sydney and Olive St Hill Rowe. This is borne out in the various death and burial notices you found for me. Sydney and Olive married in 1917 did he divorce Violet between 1914 and 1917, or perhaps she died?
2 I looked through both sets of military documents and see the Sydney in  Nelson is/was 5ft 9 with brown eyes, mentions being invalided with malaria  and gives address as Nelson, whereas the Auckland Sydney ( my one) was very short 5ft 3 blues eyes and was discharged because of wounds in Dardanelles. Looks to me as if Doc 14 in papers for my Sydney 12/1066 has been misfiled? Don't know what, if anything can be done?
3. I know there is a rather distinguished family the St Hills. I cannot tie Olive St Hill Jordan in with them so far but is there any reason you can think of for taking that name if unrelated to them. Wondered about illegitimacy?
I would love to hear more by private email but do not know what I should do?
Thank you very very much again
PatsyAnn

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
One more reply PatsyAnn will enable you to use the personal messaging system. Just put up a smiley  :) and we can go from there..........

There is no mention of service in WW2 in Sydney's death notice. But at least we know which is the correct WW1 file.  :)

[At the foot of reply #7 I have queried the name of Violet.]

Still a bit of sorting out to do.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 23:20 BST (UK) »
Purewa Cemetery details for Bernard's sisters. [Hopefully I am up the correct family tree]


Surname   ROGERS
First Names   Joyce Gladys
Age   72 Years
Gender   Female
Date of Death   16 Apr 1993
Religion   Roman Catholic
Serial No   63067
Date of Service and/or Interment   21 Apr 1993
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director   Davis Funeral Services, P O Box 56013, Mt Eden, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal   Returned
Book Of Remembrance   No

Surname   JUPP
First Names   Lois Olive
Age   71 Years
Gender   Female
Date of Death   13 Feb 1993
Religion   Roman Catholic
Serial No   62869
Date of Service and/or Interment   16 Feb 1993
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director   Davis Funeral Services, P O Box 56013, Mt Eden, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal   Returned
Book Of Remembrance   No

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 00:21 BST (UK) »
Yes they look like the sisters. Thanks again
PatsyAnn :)

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 01:02 BST (UK) »
I can now send the death notice......

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 01:10 BST (UK) »
Sent...... :)


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 02:48 BST (UK) »
Hi PatsyAnn,

I am endeavouring to obtain the death notices for Lois & Joyce. You never know, mention may be made of their brother.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 04:40 BST (UK) »
Death notice for a daughter of Joyce Gladys Rogers sent by PM........

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Bernard Sydney Rowe born 1917 New Zealand
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 06:09 BST (UK) »
Details I have provided for Lois & Joyce prove to be for the correct family.

I now have the death notices for these two ladies, the sisters of the elusive Bernard Sydney.

Can you please send your e-mail address by personal message and I will send them on to you.

For those of you following this topic, we now only know that Bernard Sydney had died by February 1993.


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.