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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:28 BST (UK) »
It looks as though he must have married an Ivy née Davies at some point 1920s or earlier - not found it yet.
A public family tree on Anc*y gives following info.

William Taylor born 3 April 1897 Warrington - detail taken from 1939 register
son of William Simpson Taylor & Alice

William Taylor married age 25 occ Gold Beater, father William labourer
spouse Ivy DAVIES (copy of  1922 m/c)
Lists 6 children one private

They say his death is John William Taylor born 13 Dec 1902 died 1970 Warrington  ???
that can't be correct due to his dob

Ivy Taylor died 1950 Newton Lancashire

No details on mother Alice as to her maiden name or when she married William Simpson Taylor


I posted the above earlier
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 18:34 BST (UK) »
Yes sorry - didn’t see that but it looks as though someone has mixed up the Williams in their tree and wrongly attributed the 1897 one to William Simpson Taylor when in fact his son was born in 1895.

GRO ref for the relevant marriage: William Taylor to Ivy Davies, Sep qtr 1922 Bucklow 8a 479.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 19:41 BST (UK) »
I have Willliam Taylor born 3 April 1897 from the 1939 census

Is this William Taylor married?
Yes, married Ivy Davies.
A public family tree on Anc*y gives following info.

William Taylor born 3 April 1897 Warrington - detail taken from 1939 register
son of William Simpson Taylor & Alice

William married age 25 occ Gold Beater, father William labourer
spouse Ivy Davies (copy of  1922 m/c)
Lists 6 children one private

They say his death is John William Taylor born 13 Dec 1902 died 1970 Warrington  ???
that can't be correct due to his dob

Ivy Taylor died 1950 Newton Lancashire

No details on mother Alice as to her maiden name or when she married William Simpson Taylor

1911 c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYJ-4B7 shows another child of William Taylor & Alice dau Florence born 1893 Warrington

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 19:43 BST (UK) »
1922 Marriage of William Taylor & Ivy was in St Mary Lymm
William’s address was 3 Moston St

1911 census has a father (1861) & son (1897) named William Taylor living Mostyn Street Lymm
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW3Q-CPX

1901 census family living Newfield Booths Lane Lymm Bucklow
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6Z-DRM
Father William Taylor occ Farmer’s labourer, son Willie born c 1897 Lymm Cheshire

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 19:51 BST (UK) »
Lymm is in the registration district of Altrincham

Could this be William's birth entry - haven't checked any of his siblings

TAYLOR, WILLIAM   mmn    HUGHES 
1897  J Quarter in ALTRINCHAM  Volume 08A  Page 201

possible marriage entry of parents

Jun 1885 
Hughes    Mary Martha    Altrincham    8a   271    
MILLER    Emma        Altrincham    8a   271   
Stubbs    Elias        Altrincham    8a   271    
TAYLOR    William        Altrincham    8a   271

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1891 census
Mostyn Street Lymm
William   TAYLOR   Head   1863      Cheshire occ Gen Labourer
Mary M   Taylor   Wife   27   1864   Fustian Cutter   Cheshire
Sarah C   Taylor   Daughter   1885   Scholar   Cheshire
Lilly   Taylor   Daughter      1886      Cheshire
James Hy   Taylor   Son      1889.    Cheshire
??n HUGHES    ?   Widow   1833   Charwoman   Lancashire
RG12 Piece number   2827 Folio   131 Page   46
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 20:08 BST (UK) »
The GRO indexes shows no mother’s maiden name on his birth entry - so suggests illegitimate
Exactly what I was thinking.

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  SIMPSON   -
1870  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 155   

Is William Taylor the adopted son of Jonathan & Matilda Bollellor on 1891 c census
RG12; Piece: 3076; Folio: 113; Page: 15
Could be. I will assess later.

Did he marry Alice?
Yes

1901 census RG13; Piece: 3580; Folio: 78; Page: 28
they have sons
William born c 1896 Warrington
Arthur born c 1898
Ada born 1894
Yes

EDIT - looking at the original 1891 census surname could be MELLOR
Jonathan Mellor
Matilda B Mellor
The GRO indexes shows no mother’s maiden name on his birth entry - so suggests illegitimate

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  SIMPSON   -
1870  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 155   

Is William Taylor the adopted son of Jonathan & Matilda Bollellor on 1891 c census
RG12; Piece: 3076; Folio: 113; Page: 15

Did he marry Alice?

1901 census RG13; Piece: 3580; Folio: 78; Page: 28
they have sons
William born c 1896 Warrington
Arthur born c 1898
Ada born 1894

EDIT - looking at the original 1891 census surname could be MELLOR
Jonathan Mellor
Matilda B Mellor
The GRO indexes shows no mother’s maiden name on his birth entry - so suggests illegitimate

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  SIMPSON   -
1870  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 155   

Is William Taylor the adopted son of Jonathan & Matilda Bollellor on 1891 c census
RG12; Piece: 3076; Folio: 113; Page: 15

Did he marry Alice?

1901 census RG13; Piece: 3580; Folio: 78; Page: 28
they have sons
William born c 1896 Warrington
Arthur born c 1898
Ada born 1894

EDIT - looking at the original 1891 census surname could be MELLOR
Jonathan Mellor
Matilda B Mellor
It looks as though he must have married an Ivy née Davies at some point 1920s or earlier - not found it yet.

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 20:13 BST (UK) »
William Simpson Taylor’s son William was born in 1895 rather than 1897.

Ada Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1894 Warrington

William Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Sep qtr 1895 Warrington <<<

Arthur Taylor, mother’s maiden name Newall, Jun qtr 1898 Warrington

These appear to be the baptism of the above children (Lanc OPC)

27 Sep 1894 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Ada Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 15 Aug 1894
    Abode: Dallam Lane
   
28 Nov 1895 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
William Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 11 Aug 1895
    Abode: 25 Dallam Lane
   
5 May 1898 St Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Arthur Taylor parents William Taylor occ Slater & Alice
    Born: 7 Mar 1898
    Abode: 20 Dallam Lane

Couldn't find anything for dau Florence from 1911c  ???

edit - possible death of father William Simpson Taylor from familysearch

England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
William Simpson Taylor age 67   
burial 17 Jun 1938 St Anne, Warrington, Lancashire
This looks correct for death. Assumes birth 1871 or 1870

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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 20:20 BST (UK) »
Cheshire Electoral Register
Years 1921 1922 1923 1924
Moston Street Lymm
William Taylor
Mary Martha Taylor
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Re: William Simpson Taylor born Oct 1870 Warrington
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 04 June 19 20:23 BST (UK) »
Which William Taylor  is yours?

The one born 1897 or the one born 1895
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