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Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:24 BST (UK) »
Hi! I am searching for birth records for my Grandmother who was born in Wales in 1914. Not sure how accurate this information is, as my father passed it onto me prior to him passing away.
Below is the only information I have;
Names: Honora Alice
Surname: Edwards
Born: 24 December 1914
I have been able to track her death certificate via a search online, but the document does not contain any ID numbers or place of birth - only details of her passing.
If anyone can steer me in the right direction, I would be most grateful.
Regards, Rudi

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:34 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

I can't see, via https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl - a free search site for birth, marriage and death registrations in England and Wales from 1837 - a birth record for Honora Alice, in Wales, in 1914.

Do you have any further information on her, which might help in the search.

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:36 BST (UK) »
GRO has only this Honora Edwards and not a Welsh birth but in Preston Lancashire

   EDWARDS, HONORA  MARY     TAYLOR 
GRO Reference: 1915  S Quarter in PRESTON  Volume 08E  Page 841

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 17:07 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too.

Where and when did she die, and in what name?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 17:12 BST (UK) »
OK - death as Honora Alice Jonker: Transvaal, South Africa, 1944.

"Born Edwards.  Surviving spouse Johan Daniel Jonker".

(From NARSSA)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 18:04 BST (UK) »
Probate on FamilySearch

died 16th Feb 1944, age at death 29 yrs 2 months so born late 1914 or early 1915
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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 18:08 BST (UK) »
Quote from: medpat on Wednesday 05 June 19 18:04 BST (UK)
Probate on FamilySearch

died 16th Feb 1944, age at death 29 yrs 2 months so born late 1914 or early 1915

Good find.

Well there's no Honora A [any surname] birth registered anywhere in England & Wales in Dec qtr 1914 or Mar qtr 1915, so either she was born with another name or she wasn't born in England & Wales (perhaps in South Africa to Welsh parents?).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 18:14 BST (UK) »
Now looked at probate it states born in Johannesburg not Wales

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9L-2S2T-S?i=2171&cc=2520237
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Re: Searching for records of Welsh Grand Mother - I'm in South Africa..
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 18:15 BST (UK) »
says born 1915 on IGI - here is her probate notice - also says born 1915 of 33 Grove Road ,Johannesburg

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7T-NFL7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9L-2S2T-S?i=2171&cc=2520237
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