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Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,
 Please can someone help with filling out  the mother's details - Josepha daughter of Johann Ballan and Elizabeth

Child is Veronica Jäckel, dau of Ferdinand of house 37 in Eulau (Tetschen region), now  Jílové, Czechia, born 23rd Oct 1814 - bottom of page folio 145

http://vademecum.soalitomerice.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=09ddd7cea03b9b8d:30bdd2c7:1201ea2ef5b:-79ce&scan=74#scan74
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 June 19 09:52 BST (UK) »
Sorry - I'll have to pass on this one. I can't read any of it.  :(

Maybe Dave can help.

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Karen
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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 June 19 14:33 BST (UK) »
23 Oktober 1814 Haus-Nr   37

Veronika

am 24 getauft
durch ??

Ferdinand
Jäckel
Häusler

Josepha, des Johann Ballans Revier-
förster in Lißa Nro. 21?? Tetschner Herr
schaft und der Elizabeth geborene
Partin aus Linz, Tochter
Tetschner Herrschaft
Hebamme: Rosine Laubin

Paten und Stand
Veronika Lodi(in) Häuslerin in ?
? Lodi, Tischler in Merzdorf

Franziska ?, Tischlerin in Merzdorf
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23 October 1814 House-Nr   37

Veronika

baptised on the 24 by ??

Ferdinand
Jäckel
Cottager

Josepha, the daughter of Johann Ballans, district forester in Lißa Nro. 21
?? Tetschner Herrschaft and Elizabeth nee Partin from Linz
Tetschner Herrschaft1
Midwife: Rosine Laubin

last 2 coloumns Paten godparents / standing and profession

Veronika Lodi(in) cottager in ?
? Lodi, carpenter in Merzdorf

Franziska ? carpenter in Merzdorf

1 under Tetschner sovereignty or reign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C4%9B%C4%8D%C3%ADn

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 June 19 19:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dave, that's brilliant! Do you think the place name Lissa could actually be Tyssa, which is a small village in the Aussig/Usti district?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tis%C3%A1

 And could the LInz be this one - now known as Mlynce

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ml%C3%BDnce.

I had a look at some of their other childrens baptisms and still struggled to make out the occupation of Johann - but in the earlier records his surname looks like Pallans. I have a similar thing with my Bergers becoming Perger and even Pegr as you go back.  Which spelling do you think I should use when entering on my tree?

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Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 June 19 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

yes Mlynce is Linz.
If you open the link you will find "Mlýnec je německy Linz" meaning "Mkynce, in German Linz"

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 June 19 19:30 BST (UK) »
Here´s Lysa or Lissa

JPG Lissa - old railway network
 Lysa G maps

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 June 19 19:37 BST (UK) »
I always write the names as i find them in the records. Except when it´s an obvious spelling mistake.
Many people were illiterat those days and the clerks wrote "what they heard, or thought they had heard"

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Re: Help with German PR - 1814 Eulau Bohemia
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 June 19 07:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the maps .
Regards, Helen
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Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR