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Alice M KIrtland
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 20:43 BST (UK) »
Alice M Kirtland b. 12/08/1914
Was living with the Kirtland family in Windsor according to the 1939 Register.
Please can anybody advise me as to who her parents were?
Kirtland (Oxfordshire Windsor, Berkshire)
Lipscombe (Longwick Berkshire 1825- 1960)
Marsh (Co Durham+Berks  Bucks post 1935, Wokingham 1990)
Reynolds (Buckinghamshire)
Green Berkshire)
Brown (? Co Durham)
Wilson ( ? Buckinghamshire)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 20:53 BST (UK) »
We canít give detailed info from the 1939 Register as I am sure you know.  In any event it doesnít give relationships between listed individuals.

This marriage may be of interest, but it postdates Aliceís birth:

Leonard R Kirtland
Ethel E Green

Dec qtr 1914 Maidenhead 2c 1034.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 20:55 BST (UK) »
Actually I think Alice was married so we canít tell you much about her without her maiden name.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 20:58 BST (UK) »
Was she the Alice M Morris(s) who had married Leonard C H Kirtland, Jun qtr 1939 Gosport?

Looks like it. Leonard Clarence Henry Kirtland born 12 Jan 1915, died Dec qtr 1975 Salisbury.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 21:37 BST (UK) »
Alice Mary Kirtland, born 12 Aug 1914, died June 1986, St. Austell. Could be her.

A birth registration of an Alice Mary Morris in Cork, district Kinsale, date given is 12 August 1914, might be worth investigating
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01399/1575383.pdf

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 21:43 BST (UK) »
Marriage, 9 October 1913
Herbert Patrick James Morris + Margaret Maude Murphy
He is a soldier
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09901/5597958.pdf

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 21:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. I am extremely confused. The owner of the household was my grandfather, Leonard F. Kirtland b. Windsor 1885. I have no idea who Alice M Kirtland was. Could it be just coincidence  that she had the same family name. I think that E E Kirtland, Lronatds wife was  a Green and that she had a sister called Maud, though, I do not understand how this person might have been her. 

It is rather late with me and I am too tired to think clearly. There just may be a clue here
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Kirtland (Oxfordshire Windsor, Berkshire)
Lipscombe (Longwick Berkshire 1825- 1960)
Marsh (Co Durham+Berks  Bucks post 1935, Wokingham 1990)
Reynolds (Buckinghamshire)
Green Berkshire)
Brown (? Co Durham)
Wilson ( ? Buckinghamshire)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 22:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. I am extremely confused. The owner of the household was my grandfather, Leonard F. Kirtland b. Windsor 1885. I have no idea who Alice M Kirtland was. Could it be just coincidence  that she had the same family name. I think that E E Kirtland, Lronatds wife was  a Green and that she had a sister called Maud, though, I do not understand how this person might have been her.  Link to follow with info that might help to follow.

It seems fairly straightforward that Alice was a daughter-in-law of the householder Leonard F Kirtland, having earlier in 1939 married Leonardís son Leonard C H Kirtland - see previous posts.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice M KIrtland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 22:06 BST (UK) »
Child born in Gosport in 1940?

Why does it say Crosshaven instead of Murphy on that marriage entry!
Margaret Christina(?), sibling of Alice Mary, born 25 Dec 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01348/1556308.pdf