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William Lucy born 1839
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 23:27 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for information about William Lucy's parents and siblings.  He was born in Enniskillen and says on his marriage certificate that his father was called William Lucy as well and was a gentleman.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 23:52 BST (UK) »
What was the family's religion?
What was the father's occupation on the marriage cert.

Sorry you said Gentleman

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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 June 19 00:07 BST (UK) »
Yes - I don't know the religion but I think it was Protestant (Church of Ireland)

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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 June 19 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi
The valuation book for Enniskillen in 1836 has

William Lucy Main st  house office and yard £20 0 0
The dwelling is 18 ft long 27 1/2 feet wide and 18 1/2 ft high
Addition 20 x 13 1/2 7 1/2 high
stable  49 x  13 1/2   15 ft high.
Info taken 1835 and tax Dec 1836.

He was entitled to vote from 21 Oct 1833 so with the Great Reform Act that extended the vote to the top riches fifth of men in the UK.

The 1846 Slater directory gives a William Lucy porter and spirit dealer at Tonystick Enniskiillen
Also a Mervyn Lucy same address and occupation.

1862 Griffiths Valuation
William Lucey Castle st lease of William Dane  £10
four down from Earl of Enniskillen pub.

There is a death of a William Lucy in June qtr 1886 at Enniskillen age 77 which would fit.

Castle st  19 Feb 1886 William Lucy  77 Grocer and publican  married  paralysis 3 months Inf widow Eliza Lucy  Reg 17th June 1886.

I can't see a marriage or death for Eliza after that.
This may be his Will
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx

William Lucy late of Doogery Cty Fermanagh Gentleman 1888 but the date of death doesn't match.


Mervyn died in Enniskillen in 1870 age 66 so perhaps William's brother.
The protestant church records are at PRONi but don't seem to be on line.

The Mormans  seem to have microfilmed them but you'll need to go to one of their libraries.(only 1666-1826 for them.)


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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 June 19 12:04 BST (UK) »
This Search should find all Registrations from 1845 Marriages and births/deaths from 1864

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 June 19 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
There is a letter to the Editor from William Lucy  7 Dec 1848 to the Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne Packet newspaper which says he has been in business in the town for 18 years.
There seems to have been a complaint against him from a servant girl.
I can't find the original article from the week before but William is not happy.

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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 June 19 12:50 BST (UK) »
With no Marriage for Wm in Enniskillen I did following Search and there is a POSSIBLE in Irvinestown.

With Widow Eliza registering his Death and looked for an Eliza marrying in Irvinestown same year

There is the following POSSIBLE, with matching Page No's etc.....  Image of Cert not online yet to see if they married each other! There are more than one Marriage on Pages.

As you can see Mervyn's father was Andrew...
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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 June 19 12:56 BST (UK) »
The wording from the Will Book is online-
The Will of William Lucy late of Doogery County Fermanagh Gentleman who died 7 February 1888 at same place was proved at Armagh by John Hamilton of Creive and William James Reid of Tattenheglish both in said County Esquires the Executors. Will dated 21 July 1886 mentions farm in Doogery, property in Co. Tyrone, family burying ground in Clogher, cousin John Lucy of Castlecaulfield, cousin Henry Lucy, niece Anne Frncis otherwise Lucy & her sister Elizabeth Smyth, daughter Maria Henwood 'now in America,' and various other persons. No mention of a wife or children other than daughter Maria.

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There is a death of a William Lucy in June qtr 1886 at Enniskillen age 77 which would fit. Castle st  19 Feb 1886 William Lucy  77 Grocer and publican  married  paralysis 3 months Inf widow Eliza Lucy  Reg 17th June 1886.
Registered 7 June 1886 (not 17th)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06250/4789494.pdf
Corrected entry-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06250/4789494a.pdf
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Re: William Lucy born 1839
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 June 19 13:00 BST (UK) »
Using GRONI's database the marriage for William Lucy 12 Dec.1861 Fermanagh district is to a Robinson. Checking under Robinson gives bride as Sarah not Elizabeth.

Added- Family Search has extract of marriage-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6B-YB3

Added- this could be the Elizabeth Irvine on same page-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6B-YYY
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