Author Topic: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.  (Read 1133 times)

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 June 19 15:19 BST (UK) »
PS The baptism for Barbara 24 Dec 1876 has father as a "maker up"

Add 125 Pollard Street

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 June 19 15:20 BST (UK) »
The GRO birth index gives the mothers maiden name for Barbara as Ward so that would make sense her middle name was that.  So maybe on the wrong track with that one unfortunately  :-\

So unlikely that Elizabeth Hughes was her mother, unless Elizabeth was a widow at her marriage to James Greenwood.

It is a difficult one, as from everything I have found out, Thomas Greenwood and his family were extremely close to James Ward, his father in law, and his wife Bridget Ward's siblings.  It wouldn't surprise me if James Henry Greenwood (named probably after Henry Greenwood and James Ward, his grandfathers), married a Ward from this family.  Maybe even in Ireland?

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06 June 19 15:22 BST (UK) »
PS The baptism for Barbara 24 Dec 1876 has father as a "maker up"

Add 125 Pollard Street

I have no idea what a Maker Up was?  Probably something in a cotton mill?

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 June 19 15:22 BST (UK) »
Yes she was a widow but her fathers name wasn't Ward - will check what it was **

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 June 19 15:24 BST (UK) »
Maker up made up garments.

There is a very handy dictionary (online) of "old occupations" that is well worth searching for and saving for future reference.
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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 06 June 19 16:17 BST (UK) »
Barbara Ward Greenwood's baptism 24th December 1876, there is an image of the document on familysearch.org, Ancoats All Souls, residence 125 Portland (?) Street, father's job Broker(?).

Thomas Greenwood, James Henry Greenwood's father, was definitely a Broker on many records, and I suspect the 1841 census of James Ward, Broker, in Medlock Street, Hulme, could be his grandfather James Ward.

I did find some records of a possible James Greenwood, where he was some sort of clothes dealer, but I wasn't at all sure that was the right person.  Married to a Mary, born in Ireland.

I did find an online list of old occupations, I think they had Carter, but Card Dealer and Card Picker are still mystifying.

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Re: James Henry Greenwood, born 1848, Medlock Street, Hulme.
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 June 19 10:50 BST (UK) »
Maker up made up garments.

There is a very handy dictionary (online) of "old occupations" that is well worth searching for and saving for future reference.

I found Maker Up here
https://rmhh.co.uk/occup/m.html

This one lists Marine Store Keeper as well

Marine Store Dealer   Proprietor of a store selling equipment to Mariners. There were also those who aspired to that but who were nothing but junk dealers.

I had looked at two other online lists of old occupations that didn't have it.  And none of them list Card Dealer or Card Picker.