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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #27 on: Friday 28 June 19 06:19 BST (UK) »
This is a rough summary of the first extract.  Disclaimer - it may be wrong in any or every way.

...after the decease of his wife Joan he wills that his feoffees make sufficient and legitimate estate in law to Thomas Essherst taylo(r) de Essheford of and in all his aforesaid lands and tenements at heanwod in ?yllysbergh* of and in all his lands at heanherst in Kyngyssnoth aforesaid to hold to Thomas his heirs and assigns forever...

* I'm not sure how this word begins.  It could be Se/So/W or perhaps other letters.

Heanwood is mentioned here:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5475116

Bookbox, is that a word between decessu(m) and dicte or is it struck out?

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #28 on: Friday 28 June 19 06:43 BST (UK) »
The second is of the same form except it is to Joh(ann)i Essherst de Rokyng (son of Henry as you said) and the lands and tenements are at Berrowhell? in the parish of Essheford.

Bookbox:  cu(m) [orrio?] desup(er) [astant(?)] = what?

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #29 on: Friday 28 June 19 09:13 BST (UK) »
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Bookbox, is that a word between decessu(m) and dicte or is it struck out?

I think he was going to write uxoris and then struck out the first letter.

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #30 on: Friday 28 June 19 10:56 BST (UK) »
Bookbox:  cu(m) [orrio?] desup(er) [astant(?)] = what?

... cu(m) orrio desup(er) astant(i) ...
... with the barn standing above (i.e. on the lands and tenements) ...

     (h)orreum/orrium = barn/granary

(Sorry, I've had very little time this week. I'll try to come back later.)

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #31 on: Friday 28 June 19 17:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Bookbox.

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #32 on: Friday 28 June 19 19:36 BST (UK) »
?yllysbergh*

* I'm not sure how this word begins.  It could be Se/So/W or perhaps other letters.

I think it's a W, so Wyllysbergh = Willesborough (near Ashford).

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #33 on: Friday 28 June 19 21:18 BST (UK) »
In Part 3, he leaves a piece of land in Ashford, next to the vicarage and next to Coldham, to allow the church to distribute alms for ever. After the death of his wife Joan, if his son John and his daughter Joan should have no heirs ... (to Part 4, see below)

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #34 on: Friday 28 June 19 21:20 BST (UK) »
Part 4 is impossible to follow because of the folds. The bits that I can read refer to his copyhold lands at Beaver in Ashford, and a property called Bilham. His copyhold lands in the parishes of Kingsnorth, Mersham and Sevington (with some exceptions) are to be divided equally between Thomas Essherst, tailor, and John Essherst, son of Henry Essherst. corrected below, see reply #37

(But that last bequest may be dependent on his son John and daughter Joan having no heirs, as referenced at the end of Part 3. As it stands now, I canít see how those two sections link up.)

The third and fourth snippets seem to relate to his son and daughter and then his sisters in relation to his principal place at Bevir and other lands.

Where are you seeing his sisters?

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Re: Help with Asherst Wills
« Reply #35 on: Friday 28 June 19 22:11 BST (UK) »
Part 4 is impossible to follow because of the folds.

Where are you seeing his sisters?
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Thank you both Horselydown and Bookbox for your help and comments.

I agree with Bookbox that the reference is to "Willesborough" as he refers to lands he holds in Ashford, Willesborough, Sevington, Mersham, Kingsnorth and Rodmersham(? again, a fold in the will) earlier in his will.

Sorry, yes the many folds in the will do make it hard to read.

It is interesting that he refers to Thomas Essherst "taylor" of Ashford. I had not thought it meant that.

His sisters, I believe, are mentioned in the second last line of snippet 4, ie. "Elisie Benette Alice Marione and Isabelle soror(?) mens (my sisters) their heirs and assigns to be equally divided (?)" I'm really not sure of my sketchy translation here.

I agree, I am also having problem seeing how the bequests follow from one to the other. But I think with your above help that I can sort it out.
Thanks again, gloveg.