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Offline Anne in OZ

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Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« on: Saturday 08 June 19 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi can any one please help with this address? I can read the Princess part but not the rest. Thanks.
SCOTLAND: Bothwell Hunter Cumming Forbes Deans McPhail Wyness Malcolm Cameron Harvey McQueenie McCall Morrison
ENGLAND: Bailey Beer Beere Mann Worker Wines Page Turner Vagg Grimwood Heaton Stanbridge Stapleton Thompson Pittard Chick Dummelow Brown Dimmitt
IRELAND:Corkery O'Connor Reid McFadzen McFadden Oates McQueenie

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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 June 19 10:54 BST (UK) »
Princess Helena, with two goes at Helena?
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 June 19 10:59 BST (UK) »


Could be "Holand"
Can you see page 1 of the census book and look at the description of the enumerator's walk?     
Or can you page back and forth . . . .
Does that give clues to the street names around it?
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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:01 BST (UK) »



Or, tell us who it is and we'll look as well?
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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:01 BST (UK) »
Can you give us the census reference please?
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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:03 BST (UK) »
As Mckha489 suggested, I also think it is Princess Helena, Little Holland.

An image of an old postcard is available here:

https://www.jbarchive.co.uk/es-1365---princess-helena-little-holland-essex---6x4-photo-10523-p.asp

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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
This could get interesting!  ;D

Great Holland is a blink 'n you'll miss it place. Tiny.

Looks to me more like Princes with the 2nd "s" (if that's what it is) having been added later.

I keep seeing "Nilena", which is really not helping...  ::)

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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
And from this website:

https://www.europese-bibliotheek.nl/en/Books/Clacton-on-Sea_in_old_picture_postcards_volume_1/100-134010/Article/4

"33. THE 'PRINCESS HELLENA', LITTLE HOLLAND. Licensed as 'The Beerhouse' in 1882. Plans for the future development of Little Holland, a small village sorne two miles to the east of Clacton-on-Sea, went ahead at the turn of the century. A map of the 'Presten Estate' in 1904 shows the proposed roads which included Kings Avenue, Kaisers Grove, and Kings Cliff. Probably when Greene, King & Sans taak over the little beer house, shown in the photograph, in 1883 from its previous owner, one Fleetwood Codd, they decided to maintain the regal note. There were two Princess Helenas. Princess Helena Victoria (1870-1948), a grand-daughter af Queen Victoria's, and Princess Helena (1846-1923) who was her mather and the fifth child of Queen Victoria. At the time this photo was taken, in 1905, Little Holland was all farmland except for a few agricultural cottages. In 1934 it was absorbed by Clacton and became Holland-on-Sea, A year later the 'Princess Helena' was pulled down and a large new Public House called 'The Roaring Donkey' replaced it. (Note spelling: 'Hellena' on sign-board.)"

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Re: Help with 1891 census address Great Holland Essex
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 June 19 11:07 BST (UK) »
Well done, Vimto!

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