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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 14 June 19 09:54 BST (UK) »
The references look like:

John Grenham's summary of surviving Irish wills and will abstracts is at https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ATRlo07F9v0C&pg=PA64#v=onepage&q&f=false

Wallace Clare's guide to copies and abstracts, lists what was available after the fire at http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/genealogy/CPPgenealogy21oct2013/wallace_clare_reduced.pdf

CIGO (http://www.cigo.ie/pages/guide-to-wills-and-administrations/) is also good for later wills.

Do you know where the Irish estate duty wills (1812-1857) can be found?

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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 15 June 19 19:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks again John - there's so much to try to remember, so many places to look.


Do you know where the Irish estate duty wills (1812-1857) can be found?

I don't, but according to John Grenham's site they are indexed in the PRONI pre-1858 index, which I think means this:

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ProniNames_IE/SearchPage.aspx

Apparently most of those wills were proved at the Court of Canterbury - those wills are imaged on Ancestry, and I have found a few Irish wills there.


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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 15 June 19 20:18 BST (UK) »

I tried looking up a couple of those Cashel wills in the Index to Irish Wills, but it didn't seem to include them, so I don't know if they're included in any index to date...?



IAR is the Inland Revenue Administrations at https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/232755?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Would I be right in saying the administration register 1828-1839 is for those who died intestate?

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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 15 June 19 20:51 BST (UK) »
I should have said that Derry & Raphoe, Ossory, and Cashel are grant books not will books. So they include grants of probate, administration, marriage licence bonds, and guardianship. The administrations won't be in the will index.


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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 16 June 19 00:37 BST (UK) »
This has been informative. Thank-you.
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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 16 June 19 10:43 BST (UK) »

Would I be right in saying the administration register 1828-1839 is for those who died intestate?

Yes that's correct. The level of details is similar to the later Will Calendars including relationship to Administrator and often date of death.

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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 16 June 19 10:45 BST (UK) »
Ok, thanks.

I was looking back at the will of Edward Stevenson posted by Jon W:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNR-D93W-T?i=445&cat=234657

The consanguity of two legatees is given as "D.J." or perhaps "D.S." - do you know what that means?


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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 16 June 19 10:47 BST (UK) »
I think that's just "ditto" ie they are both nephews of the deceased too.

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Re: Index to Irish Wills 1484-1858: Where to find the wills?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 16 June 19 22:59 BST (UK) »
On the other hand I've recently seen DS seen where there was no entry above, maybe it means not related by blood.