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Missing Civil Marriage Registration
« on: Monday 10 June 19 14:52 BST (UK) »
From family knowledge, I was always aware of a Roche - Brennan marriage some time in the period from 1860s-1880s in the Taghmon or Glynn  areas. But I could never find such a marriage in the original civil registration records in Wexford, which is where I looked.

Finally just found what I believe is the marriage in question in the Taghmon parish records
Thomas Roche = Ellen Brennan, 20/2/1873
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634129#page/24/mode/1up

The interesting thing is that, now that I know the date and place, there still seems to be no sign of this marriage in the civil registration records! Is that possible.  Always been clear that there were many unregistered births and deaths, but marriages as well?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford

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Re: Missing Civil Marriage Registration
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 June 19 14:55 BST (UK) »
Plenty of unregistered Marriages too.... Anti-British Anti-Establishment thingy! Same with early Census etc
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Re: Missing Civil Marriage Registration
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 June 19 15:35 BST (UK) »
Something went wrong on irishgenealogy.ie
Party 1 Name MARK HARPUR
Party 2 Name ELLIN BRENNAN
Date of Event 24 February 1873

Party 1 Name THOMAS ROCHE
Party 2 Name ELIZA HANTON
Date of Event 20 February 1873

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Ellin Brennan
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYQ4-X53

Thomas Roche
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYQM-Q3N

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Re: Missing Civil Marriage Registration
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 June 19 22:18 BST (UK) »
Something went wrong on irishgenealogy.ie
Party 1 Name MARK HARPUR
Party 2 Name ELLIN BRENNAN
Date of Event 24 February 1873

Party 1 Name THOMAS ROCHE
Party 2 Name ELIZA HANTON
Date of Event 20 February 1873

Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Ellin Brennan
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYQ4-X53

Thomas Roche
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYQM-Q3N

Yes, index has confused and mixed up the marriages!

As an aside, my parents and I had the "pleasure" of trying to read whole volumes of BMD registrations by this registrar for Taghmon & Glynn.  Dreadful handwriting, the worst we saw in civil registration records. A gift that is still giving 150 years on!

BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford

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Re: Missing Civil Marriage Registration
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 June 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
Plenty of unregistered Marriages too.... Anti-British Anti-Establishment thingy! Same with early Census etc

I come from a VERY patriotic family.

Brennans made the pikes in 1798!

BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island; CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wexford; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE Lady's Island; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wexford; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wexford; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wexford