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I don't see dead people
« on: Tuesday 11 June 19 07:07 BST (UK) »
I've developed a decent size tree of 400 people using mostly census, marriage and birth data. I have  a reasonable level of confidence in the data by cross checking the parents of siblings, mothers maiden name and marriage records. However where i really struggle is killing people off. Online death records contain very little information and with a common family name (Smith) there are often 5-10 possibles for each person taking area and timeframe into account.   
Most of the people on one side of my tree don't have death dates.  While this isn't important for building a tree the completist in me would like to do  better. Can people suggest tips for online verification of deaths ?  - i'm currently living  outside the UK and use FindMyPast.   

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 June 19 08:08 BST (UK) »
Seeing the monumental inscriptions can help to identify the correct person. Try the photographic sites such as Findagrave and Billiongraves.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 June 19 08:32 BST (UK) »
Probate Records are also a useful way of checking individuals - full name and address at death and date of death. Not everybody appears in the records, but a surprisingly high number do. Ancestry has them online.

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 June 19 08:34 BST (UK) »
Burial/cremation records can be useful, especially when there is no monument. They often contain address of deceased, name of person organising cremation, others buried in the same plot, and so on.

Deceased Online is a good place to start. There are costs, but it's generally much cheaper than buying a speculative death certificate. Also check individual local authority web sites, some provide indexes.
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham


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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 June 19 08:35 BST (UK) »
Probate Records are also a useful way of checking individuals - full name and address at death and date of death. Not everybody appears in the records, but a surprisingly high number do. Ancestry has them online.

jds1949

If you don't have Ancestry access they are available free from the original indexes from the probate office that Ancestry links to .
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 June 19 08:36 BST (UK) »
Probate Records are also a useful way of checking individuals - full name and address at death and date of death. Not everybody appears in the records, but a surprisingly high number do. Ancestry has them online.

Seconded, very useful. Also available free at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills.

EDIT: thirded!
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 06:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all of these. Very helpful.

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 08:42 BST (UK) »
I didn't know about Deceased Online.... not just UK, coverage index shows also Cyprus, Egypt, Malta & Singapore.
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: I don't see dead people
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 June 19 07:47 BST (UK) »
Hopefully cdxp will return here to read our replies, it would be nice to know if they were helpful to them.

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