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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 05:00 BST (UK) »
Was just about to post the same possible marriage of Henry and Elizabeth, agree with you libby  ;)

(I think it's ok to post the transcription of the 1911 census that appears on familysearch as it's available and free to search now.)

Thank you for the 1911 info, Maddy, I wasn't aware.

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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 05:04 BST (UK) »
UK, Royal Air Force Airmen Records, 1918-1940
Name:    John William Collins
Gender:    Male
Age:    18
Birth Date:    6 Jul 1909
Birth Place:    West Ham, London, London, England
Service Date:    6 Jun 1928
Service Number:    508731
Next of Kin:    E Sullivan
Relation to Airman:    Grandmother
 
Corresponding baptism
St Matthew, Limehouse Fields, Tower Hamlets. John William Collins son of Henry a labourer and Elizabeth Matilda, Born 6 Jul 1909, Baptised 28 Jul 1909

The Airforce record for John William tells you that Patrick Henry's maternal Grandmother's first name begins with E, which is some help.

I think it a good idea to get Patrick Henry Arthur's birth cert just to be absolutely certain you follow the right ancestors.

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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 05:24 BST (UK) »
Marriage St Matthew Stepney, Apr 7th 1901. Henry Collins, 25, father Henry dock labourer.  Elizabeth Matilda Sullivan 22, father Patrick steamship worker.  Witnesses William Thomas Ford, Louisa Wilks.


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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 07:09 BST (UK) »
Posts crossed maddys52 but at least we both agree on the probables.

I didn't realise we could now post 1911 census, good to know.

We are only allowed to post the information that is available from a 'free search' this is usually done by us using familysearch website which does not need a subscription to view  :)
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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
Based on the names above, it is possible that this is the family in the 1911 census at Limehouse:
Henry Collins        35    Poplar, London  (gas works labourer)
Elizabeth Sullivan    31    Stepney, London
Elizabeth Collins    9    Limehouse, London
Grace Collins       7    Limehouse, London
Henry Collins            3    Limehouse, London
John Collins            1    Canning Town, Essex

GBC/1911/RG14/01554/0295/5 (page 1)
This is what a found too but on the 1911 census itís missing Patrick Henry A Collins, as he was born
In 1907 surely he would be on it 🤔. Thank so much everyone for all the replies wow how quick you all are on finding possible matchís most if them have taken me ages to get that far lol. Thereís a few names I havenít seen before so shall check them out.
I never meet my grandad he died before I was born so donít know of any siblings he had.
My daughter married a traveler and heís family say they knew my deceased father whom was also a
traveling man, news to me ! So hence why Iím trying to find out if I have gypsy roots .

(Possible birth for John registered at West Ham 1909)

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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 11:09 BST (UK) »
Is he not listed as Henry age 3  :-\
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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 11:23 BST (UK) »
Oh yer thanks Rosie canít believe I missed that as I was looking for Patrick but they often use their
middle names too. Iím going to order Patrick Henry A birth certificate today hopefully it will have the names of both parents of Patrick.

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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 11:26 BST (UK) »
I assume you know you can get a PDF copy of the entry from the GRO cheaper than a paper certificate
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Re: Collins families in Bethnal Green London uk
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 12 June 19 11:27 BST (UK) »
I noticed a John Collins aged 1 on the 1911 census, my late uncle was also called John , so could
Be on the right track as families tend to use the same names after relatives.