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What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« on: Sunday 16 June 19 18:52 BST (UK) »
A previous thread (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728116.0) found that my Ethel Tee Helps travelled to Canada in 1915
She arrived in Quebec from Liverpool aboard the Metagama, intending to travel to Sackville New Brunswick to join her brother George Stanley Helps.

But what happened to her after that? Did she marry? return to England? or did she follow her brother to the USA when he moved to New Hampshire in the early 1920's?

Can anyone find any trace of her after 1915?

Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 June 19 20:01 BST (UK) »

Have you checked with the cemetery to see if Ethel is buried in the family plot ?

Did you locate any obituaries for Eva or George ?  Or other family where Ethel may be mentioned ?

Eva M Helps - 15 May 1879 - 6 March 1956

Plaistow Town Cemetery Plaistow, Rockingham County, New Hampshire.
Plot   Section 3

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93126442/eva-m-helps

Rev G Stanley helps 

Plaistow Town Cemetery Plaistow, Rockingham County, New Hampshire.
Plot   Section 3

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93126430/g_-stanley-helps

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 June 19 22:33 BST (UK) »
I haven't been able to find an obituary or grave photo for George & Eva. According to the Find-a-grave site, a King family are also mentioned on the gravestone, but I have no idea who they are. George & Eva did adopt a daughter Elizabeth, but I don't know what happened to her.

Ethel is not mentioned in the obituaries of either of her two brothers (John Sidney and William Ivor) who died in England. I haven't seen an obituary / grave  for her sister Jessie Pontin.
Wainwright - Yorkshire
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Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 June 19 19:46 BST (UK) »
This is rather bizarre.... Findagrave has two entries for Eva and George.

Enlarged grave photo here:  https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/325/185375226_12777026-1947-49a8-b746-8990f6058643.jpeg

Main page here, saying they are buried in a different state:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185375226/eva-m-helps

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Ethel Helps, was she born in Wiltshire, in a place called Bradford in 1888 - 1891?
I have seen the ship record stating 1891 as her birth year.
Also seen other info with a birth year of 1888.
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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 10:06 BST (UK) »
I haven't been able to find an obituary or grave photo for George & Eva. According to the Find-a-grave site, a King family are also mentioned on the gravestone, but I have no idea who they are. George & Eva did adopt a daughter Elizabeth, but I don't know what happened to her.

We can see from find a grave that Joseph S King was born 15 December 1836 and died 15 December 1927 - Louisa his wife was born 21 November 1838 and died 3 April 1915.

Massachusetts aarriage record shows Joseph S Kindg married Louisa Whittiker (as spelt on transcription) 20 December 1859 -

This would appear to be Joseph S King and his wife Louisa - Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts in 1865

Joseph F King   27 born Canada.
Louisa King   26 born Massachusetts.
Mary L King   3 born Massachusetts.
David C Knowlton 32
Mary Knowlton   31
Julian Knowlton   2

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQHP-CGT

1880 census Auburn Street Extension Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts.

Joseph S. King   43 born Canada. Shoemaker.
Lousia King   42
Mary L. King   18
Ida B. King   12

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH68-DVH

1900 census Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.

Joseph S King   62 born Canada. Shoe Finisher.
Louisa King   61
Mary L King   38

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9RS-2S5

1910 Main Street Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.

Joseph S King   70
Louisa King   70
Mary L King   38

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2JW-DVX


1920 census Main Street Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.

Joseph S King   83 born Canada Widowed.
Alfred Reneau   56
Mary L Reneau   57

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXYZ-68H

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 10:12 BST (UK) »

Obituary of J S King - The Boston Globe  Boston, Massachusetts 16 Dec 1927, Fri  -   Page 45

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33223493/j_s_king/

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 10:15 BST (UK) »
This is Mary and her husband who appear with Joseph on the 1920 census.
Daughter Mary L King born 1862 Haverhill MA aged 50 years married Alfred Rainaud 3 September 1912 Haverhill MA
Father Joseph King - Mother Louise King.

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 10:17 BST (UK) »

FIND A GRAVE - Mary King Rainaud is also buried at Maplewood Cemetery Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts - section 3 -

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94260007

Alfred Rainaud - 1863 - 1936

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94259970/alfred-rainaud

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