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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 10:51 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Helps born 1928 as per census -


City Directory - 1950/1952 - Falls River MA - Eliza Helps - student - r 81 Hood - same address as Rev G Stanley (pasture Park United Church) and Eva Helps -

Putnam, Connecticut, City Directory, 1947/51 - Eliz A Helps - student - r - Rev G Stanley Helps - Rev (Dorothea M) pastor Methodist Church - h  Main

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 11:01 BST (UK) »

You may or may not have come across this article which mentions Rev J Sidney Helps

The Boston Globe  Boston, Massachusetts 14 Feb 1927, Mon  -   Page 24

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33223706/rev_j_sidney_helps/

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:19 BST (UK) »
This looks like Eva May Lindsay (with her family in 1881/ 1901 and 1911) - wife of Rev G Stanley Helps

1881 Gaspe Quebec

Robert Lindsay   33
Eliza Ann Lindsay 23
Eva May Lindsay 1
Jennie Stuart Lindsay   6 months.


1901 census Gaspe Village Quebec

Robert Lindsay   53
Eliza Annie Lindsay   43
Eva May Lindsay   21
Jennie S Lindsay   20
Ethel S Lindsay   19
William Lindsay   16
Ruby Lindsay   14
Elanor M Lindsay   12
Robert C Lindsay   10
Erskine J Lindsay   9
Jessie I Lindsay   6
Celia M Lindsay   3
Christes Mercier   18
Cardine Jocque   23

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/jpg/z000137925.jpg

1911 census Gaspé Village Quebec.

Eliza A Lindsay   52
Eva M Lindsay   32 born May 1879
Eleanor M Lindsay 23
Robert C Lindsay 21
Erskine J Lindsay 19
Jessie R Lindsay   16
Celia M Lindsay   13
Stella Mc Kee   17

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002053867.jpg

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:24 BST (UK) »

marriage of George Stanley Helps and Eva May Lindsay - 1918 - Methodist Church Cap-aux-Os, Québec.

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 June 19 18:34 BST (UK) »
I have just got back from a few days away and found all this extra info -- thanks to Sandra for her work :)

I will review it all over the next few days and see how it all fits in to what I already know
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 June 19 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Ethel Helps, was she born in Wiltshire, in a place called Bradford in 1888 - 1891?
I have seen the ship record stating 1891 as her birth year.
Also seen other info with a birth year of 1888.
Maggsie

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My Ethel was born in Truro, Cornwall in 1879. Her parents were  William James Helps & Sarah Elizabeth Cope
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 June 19 21:28 BST (UK) »
I have just got back from a few days away and found all this extra info -- thanks to Sandra for her work :)

I will review it all over the next few days and see how it all fits in to what I already know

Your welcome, pleased to help. Hope you had a lovely break.  ;)

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Re: What happened to Ethel Helps after 1915?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 June 19 21:39 BST (UK) »
This is rather bizarre.... Findagrave has two entries for Eva and George.

Enlarged grave photo here:  https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/325/185375226_12777026-1947-49a8-b746-8990f6058643.jpeg

Main page here, saying they are buried in a different state:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185375226/eva-m-helps

Mystery solved -- the burial ground is actually in the two different states:
"The main entrance to the cemetery is in Haverhill, Massachusetts, however the majority of the cemetery is over the border in Plaistow, New Hampshire."

So, as the photo is on the Massachusets entry and not on the New Hampshire entry, and as other sources such as the birthplace of some of the King family is Massachusetts, I will presume that the Helps family were from the Massachusetts side of the border unless I find some proof otherwise
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all