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James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« on: Tuesday 18 June 19 01:04 BST (UK) »
Hi

This man arrived in USA in 1880 according to his marriage record and he was married in Springfield Massachussetts. I am trying to find information from the Ellis Island records there is a US Passport application for him, but I cannotaccess therecord

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 04:06 BST (UK) »
There's a passport application for his son Eustace, is that what you are finding reference to? Ancestry lists it under James K Kneeland's name as well, since he is mentioned in the information.

It was in 1920 and Eustace was in Tampico, Mexico, since 1912 on business and says he desires the passport to remain there. All it says about his father is that he was born in Ireland and was working as a mail carrier in Springfield. He arrived, maybe in Boston, but with no date given.

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:01 BST (UK) »
The birth record for one of the sons gave a middle name Kirwin - James Kirwin Kneeland - 13 May 1894   ??? Have you explored that angle ?

Wonder if there could be variations on the surname  - Neiland/Niland  ??? (Just noticed you mentioned his parents under Neiland on the other thread)

Only 13 years old on immigration date 1872 as per 1900 census ?  1910 census is a sham - immigrated before he was born in 1862 on that one  :-\

Ireland thread - https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814519.msg6755049

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:14 BST (UK) »

Interesting - Lots of other surnames on the headstone inscription - any relation to him ?  McMahon/Casey/Slater/Munn

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169157581#view-photo=145233410

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:27 BST (UK) »
Margaret McMahon looks like James K Kneeland housekeeper in 1930

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQGD-8G7

and with the house keeper and divorced in 1920

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXBH-8PN

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:43 BST (UK) »

Could all be red herrings but would be interesting to know if there was any relationship to James Kneeland.  ???

John McMahon and Delia Casey had a daughter Elizabeth 1869 Connecticut - looks like Elizabeth married William Slater.

1870 census New Britain, Hartford, Connecticut

John Mcmahon   26 born Ireland.
Delia Mcmahon   24 born Ireland.
Elizabeth Mcmahon 3 months - born Connecticut.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN78-SLB

1900 Springfield Ward 1, Hampden, Massachusetts.

William Slater   37 born Conecticut.
Elizabeth R Slater 31 born Connecticut.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9RK-KV9

Elizabeth remarried 22 June 1932 - mothers name differs slightly - could be transcription   

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24D8-M7Z

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:49 BST (UK) »
Food for thought........................

Interesting City Directory Entry - Springfield, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1898 - James K Kneeland - Letter Carrier - 34 Grays Ave.

Just above him - Honora (wid of John) bds 34 Grays Avenue.

Springfield, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1899 - James Kneeland - letter carrier - h 34 Grays Ave.
Hanora Kneeland widow of John rem to Worcester

City Directory 1895 just James K Kneeland listed - letter carrier - 34 Grays Ave.

City Directory Springfield - 1886/87/88 - James K Kneeland - letter carrier - rms - engine house steamer 2

1887 shows a John Kneeland - fruit - 283 Quincy (might not be the father we are looking for - just making a note)

1883 - James K Kneeland - harness maker - A F Ball - bds 16 Vernon.

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 06:02 BST (UK) »

May be another red  herring and one to discount but putting it into the mix just incase there might be a link  :-\

A marriage in Springfield Hamden Massachusetts  3 January 1882 for a Michael J Kneeland - aged 27 - son of John Kneeland and Hanora. Michael was a stone- cutter. Michael born about 1855.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC9V-XHD

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Re: James K Kneeland born c1858 in Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 06:09 BST (UK) »


This could be Michael and Julia on the 1910 census Worthington Street Springfield Ward 4, Hampden, Massachusetts.

Micheal Kneeland 51
Julia Kneeland   55
Florence Kneeland 23
Bessie Kneeland   21
William Kneeland 20

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2J1-7FH

and 1900 Summer Street Springfield Ward 4, Hampden, Massachusetts

Michael J Kneeland   44 born Ireland November 1855
Julia A Kneeland   44
Frank A Kneeland   17
Madeline Kneeland   15
Florence J Kneeland   14
Bessie Kneeland   12
William Kneeland   10

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9R2-WB4

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