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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #27 on: Friday 21 June 19 14:05 BST (UK) »
All the info. on SP is what has been collected i.e. many may have been damaged/not survived/never recorded which is a problem in any/all areas pre 1855.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #28 on: Friday 21 June 19 14:21 BST (UK) »
All the info. on SP is what has been collected i.e. many may have been damaged/not survived/never recorded which is a problem in any/all areas pre 1855.

Annie

I thought as much, thanks. I suppose some areas you are lucky and some not so much. I found one baptism entry in Perthshire for another ancestor and it named all the children on one page which was really useful for that branch.
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #29 on: Friday 21 June 19 14:24 BST (UK) »
Some Clerics were great, others not so...

I have baptisms (Highland, Scotland) which give good ancestry i.e. 2 or more further generations!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #30 on: Friday 21 June 19 14:32 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this baptism...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=550738.150

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Worth more than the cost of the doc!  ;D

This was South Uist, Inverness-shire where Gaelic was their 1st language.

It's so annoying when baptisms don't name the mother or only her forename.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #31 on: Friday 21 June 19 23:29 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this baptism...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=550738.150

Reply #152

Worth more than the cost of the doc!  ;D

This was South Uist, Inverness-shire where Gaelic was their 1st language.

It's so annoying when baptisms don't name the mother or only her forename.

Annie

That is def worth more than the cost of the doc
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #32 on: Friday 21 June 19 23:32 BST (UK) »
I think the first digit of the age on the stone could easily be a '5', giving a birth year of c1768.
Lesley

I wonder if the "one of the children" might be John Rutherford born 1794. I can't trace him in any census or a marriage.

There is one John Rutherford marrying an Elizabeth Scott that I thought was him, but have ruled that one out now as he was the son of Archibald Rutherford.
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #33 on: Friday 21 June 19 23:46 BST (UK) »
I thought 'one of his children who died in infancy' implied that all the others lived- different way of interpreting it.
Borders Family History Society says the records available for Kelso parish are
Births: 1598 to 1854.
Marriages: 1597 to 1854.
Deaths: 1614 to 1669, 1839 to 1854.


so deaths are mostly unrecorded (in common with many other Scottish parishes). I would therefore have expected that the John Rutherford, tailor, who died in 1850 would be included if he hadn't died (on holiday?) in Brighton, but he doesn't seem to be in freeBMD either. I had my eye on him as being the John born 1794.

Lesley
Bradley, Gledhill, Dodson, Norcliffe, Kaye, Matthewman- all Berry Brow/Almondbury
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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #34 on: Friday 21 June 19 23:54 BST (UK) »
I thought 'one of his children who died in infancy' implied that all the others lived- different way of interpreting it.
Borders Family History Society says the records available for Kelso parish are
Births: 1598 to 1854.
Marriages: 1597 to 1854.
Deaths: 1614 to 1669, 1839 to 1854.


so deaths are mostly unrecorded (in common with many other Scottish parishes). I would therefore have expected that the John Rutherford, tailor, who died in 1850 would be included if he hadn't died (on holiday?) in Brighton, but he doesn't seem to be in freeBMD either. I had my eye on him as being the John born 1794.

Lesley

I do know all the other children I have found baptisms of the children of  John and Rachel survived, so if there are no missing children between the years. This would mean John Rutherford born 1794 was the only child that died. But of course, is still not definite that grave John wife of Rachel.

The record years quoted above, does that mean exist full stop or just online at present?
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: John Rutherford and Rachel Johnston of Kelso
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 22 June 19 00:05 BST (UK) »
It means all the records that are in existence.
Bradley, Gledhill, Dodson, Norcliffe, Kaye, Matthewman- all Berry Brow/Almondbury
Webster- Northowram
Brick wall: Maria Blaymires  c 1800 Northowram