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kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« on: Tuesday 18 June 19 15:47 BST (UK) »
hi wonder if anyone could have better luck than I, I am researching my mums side (KERVIN) lots of name variations through the records. I have my grandads grandad as JOHN KERVIN m TERESA MCDONOUGH 10 sept 1899 in Liverpool. John's father was DANIEL KIRWAN m ANN DOYLE 26 Feb 1878 in Liverpool. I believe Daniel was born in Ireland and came over to Liverpool but I am unable to locate any records for him, there seem to be a lot of Daniel Kerwins in the area around that time but I am unable to identify the correct one, also I have a possible Census match for Ann and John plus a sibling where Ann is stated as Head with wife written above. If Daniel had passed, would she be classed as a Widow? I have found one death record that would fit if he had passed but the spouse is recorded as a MARY so this must be a different person. I would really appreciate any help with this as I feel I've hit a major brick wall. xx

sorry if anyone has read this before I had posted it in the wrong group xx

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 18:12 BST (UK) »
JUst putting 1901 census, for information:
All born Liverpool and living in Liverpool St Martin.
John Kervin   21  general labourer.
Teresa Kervin   19
Ann Kervin   3/12
Mary Craven   boarder  28

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 18:19 BST (UK) »
'John's father was DANIEL KIRWAN m ANN DOYLE 26 Feb 1878 in Liverpool.'

How do you know these are his parents, please?

This could be his birth:
John Kirwin  mmn Rossiter
 1880  June Quarter in Liverpool  Volume 08B  Page 61

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 18:22 BST (UK) »
In case it is relevant there is an earlier post on this family
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813792.
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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 18:30 BST (UK) »
I've asked moderator to lock or remove today's other duplicate post on Completed board.


Removed.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 18:59 BST (UK) »
John was born 1878, I have managed to locate his baptism records 12 Jan 1878 at our lady de reconciliation In liverpool he was born 6 Jan xx

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 19:02 BST (UK) »
John's pension military record  with spouse Teresia McDonough has him as age 35 years and 326 days (open to interpretation as ancestry thinks 32 years) on 9th November 1914 - which would give birth of mid/late December 1878


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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 20:16 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has a data base of Liverpool Catholic Weddings.The 1878 marriage gives Daniel's father as Daniel and,I suspect,the name of Summer Seat as a spouse(!) could well indicate residence(?) in Summer Street,Dublin.It has North and South variants.

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Added: Apparently there is or was a Summer Seat in Liverpool.The record has them at number 13

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Re: kirwan, kirven, kerwin, kirwin, kirvin etc etc lol
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 20:26 BST (UK) »
Free search of 1939 register for a John born 6th January 1879 +/- 2 years gives a John Kervin 1880 in Liverpool  - just a bit forgetful as to age?