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Re: swinnerton death
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 20 June 19 16:45 BST (UK) »
Reading again they cannot be as they show a different brides

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 20 June 19 17:38 BST (UK) »
It appears that Martha Herrmann may actually have married a Henry Bieber. The licence numbers for these 2 appear to match in the index and there is a tree that apparently has a copy of the marriage certificate as well.

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Added: on the other hand, there is a birth (1916 in New York City) and baptism for a Clara Winslow Swinnerton with parents Samuel Winslow Swinnerton and Martha Hermann.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 20 June 19 18:03 BST (UK) »
Brooklyn Times Union  Brooklyn, New York 8 Jul 1915, Thu  -   Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33057642/samuel_w_swinnerton/


This one had a middle name - if that helps count or discount him ?


There was a birth of a Clara Winslow/Winston Swinnerton - parents Samuel Winslow/Winston Swinnerton and Martha Hermann Swinnerton - Bushwick Church - 3 December 1915 - NY City. Baptised 14/1/1917

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Marriage license was announced in newspaper as well.

Haven't found them after that though  :-\

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 20 June 19 18:16 BST (UK) »
Same birth date as Clara Winslow Swinnerton..................

SSDI shows - Clara Winslow - 3 December 1916 died 11 February 2003

Last Residence 08625 Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey.
SSN issued New York (Before 1951)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VS6V-KXM

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Re: swinnerton death
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 20 June 19 18:25 BST (UK) »
1920 census for New York City does have a Henry Bieber, wife Martha, son Henry Jr, and brother-in- law Andrew Herman. This appears to match the marriage posted about earlier.

I haven't yet been able to find Clara and family in 1920.

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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 20 June 19 18:38 BST (UK) »
This looks like it might be the family in the 1925 New York census...

Samuel WINSLOW 56 b. England Patternmaking
Martha 35
Clara 8
Emily 6
Samuel 4
Martha ? Months

Great find about Clara, *Sandra*

So...it looks like there might be 2 Martha Hermanns married to 2 different men?

Wonder what happened to the Swinnerton part of the name? Curiouser and curiouser....

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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 20 June 19 19:07 BST (UK) »
This would make Samuel Winslow born 1869 - Samuel Swinnerton shown with son John on the 1910 census was aged 42 years so born 1868.

The one the poster is looking for was born 1847  ??? (reply 4) So the age is a mystery  ::) Fathering children at 70 plus ................

Seems Samuel Winslow shows on the records of Dutch reform Church memberships - 22 March 1914 Bushwick Church Brooklyn.  Same Church where Clara was baptised on the marriage to Martha was shown  ???

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 20 June 19 19:09 BST (UK) »

There was a Samuel Winslow on the 1880 census in New York - an adopted son of William and Charlotte Benedict.  Jay Street Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

William Benedict   42 Charlotte Benedict   36
Martha Winslow   17 Mary Winslow   15
Samuel Winslow   12 Joseph Winslow   9

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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 20 June 19 19:10 BST (UK) »
Samuel's birth- parents Simeon & Hannah Swinneton

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJVT-PJY

1899 marriage to Alice Monk. Father - Simeon Swinnerton

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMYS-LRS

1947 Death - Father listed as Simeon Winslow, wife Martha

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W2F-F1C

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 The Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Brooklyn, New York
05 Nov 1947, Wed  •  Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33068009/the_brooklyn_daily_eagle/