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Re: swinnerton death
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 20 June 19 19:54 BST (UK) »
Samuel Swinnerton was born about 1847 Tipton, Staffordshire, England. He was married twice when in England first to a Martha Kirkham in 1870. two children Hannah born 1891 and John born 1892.
Then to a Alice Monk in in 1899 one son Frank born 1900.

It was in the early 1900's that Samuel and son John left England via Liverpool and went to New York.
He is shown on various census but then disappears.
He might have married again but not proven to a Martha Herrmann in 1915 Kings Saratoga.
Interested if the third marriage could be proved and more importantly when he ended up.

thanks,
bswinno.

This info was a little mixed up.

Samuel Swinnerton born about 1867 married Martha Kirkham 22 November 1890 St Pauls Bury.  Samuel was 23 years old. Father listed as Simeon Swinnerton.

Martha Swinnerton died in 24 April 1895 Elton, All Saints, Lancashire.  aged 24 years.

Then he married Alice Monk 1899 (as RJ quoted above)

Father Simeon Swinnerton married Hannah Munslow 27 December 1854 according to anc tree.

Hannah Swinnerton died 1879 - Bury Lancs - 8c 313

1871 Darlington Durham showed Samuel with his parents Simeon and Hannah.

RG10 Piece 4884 Folio 125;Page 69

Simeon Swinnerton   35 Hannah Swinnerton   35
Sarah A Swinnerton   15 William Swinnerton   14
Hannah Swinnerton   8 Emilia Swinnerton   6
Samuel Swinnerton   4 Alisa Swinnerton   2
Joseph H Swinnerton   1 William Swinnerton   15
Elizabeth Swinnerton   12


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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 20 June 19 20:11 BST (UK) »

The wife of Samuel Winslow - Martha died 5 April 1945 Brooklyn, Kings, New York. Also buried Mount Olivet

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WTZ-NHL

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 20 June 19 20:17 BST (UK) »

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index - Emily Winslow - Emily Duffy - 9 July 1918 - 23 June 2001 - Samuel Winslow Mother Martha Hermann.

Marriage Licence - Emily Winslow - Marriage License Date 1950
Marriage License Place Brooklyn, New York City, New York.
Spouse Edward Duffy - License Number 10177

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« Reply #30 on: Thursday 20 June 19 20:44 BST (UK) »


Obit - Emily Duffy -The Westfield Leader and THE TIMES of Scotch Plains Fanwood - 5 July 2001

Emily Winslow Duffy, 82, of Edison died on Saturday, June 23, in the JFK Medical Center in Edison.
Born in New York City, she had lived in Staten Island and Scotch Plains before moving to Edison.
Mrs. Duffy had been an executive secretary with Lehman Brothers inNew York City for many years beforeretiring in 1972. Surviving is a sister, Clara Winslow.
Funeral services took place on Friday, June 29, from the Rossi Funeral Home in Scotch Plains. Interment took place at Hillside Cemetery in Scotch Plains.

https://www.goleader.com/01jul05/8.pdf

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Re: swinnerton death
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 20 June 19 23:14 BST (UK) »
Wow Sandra and Polar bear some powerful research you have both found.
I keep reading it over and over.

So it seems that the year and place I have for Samuel is incorrect. The year you have found fits in better to the tree I have.
Now the interesting part. It is obvious that when Samuel went to America with his young son John.  That he was still married to Alice Monk. So he then married Martha Herrmann and went on to have a family with her.

So maybe he was covering his tracks and dropped the Swinnerton name  and used Winslow.
Does this sound feasible?

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 21 June 19 08:35 BST (UK) »
It seems Samuel did change his name, maybe he didn't want to be found.  It would be interesting what he described his marital status as on the marriage to Martha  :-\

Notice on the marriage certificate for son Frank Swinnerton when he married Alice Lindley 21 st June 1930.
Frank was 29 years - bachelor - warehouseman - 46 Ainsworth Road Radcliffe - father Samuel Swinnerton - Pattern Maker (deceased)

Perhaps Frank was just told his father had died  ???

It seems Alice Monk/Swinnerton never remarried - probate to Frank Swinnerton when she died 8 March 1949 - (probate 28 April 1949 Manchester Lancs. )

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Just realised we covered Frank in the previous thread

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 21 June 19 09:21 BST (UK) »
Yes Sandra very intriguing defiantly looks like a name change to cover his tracks.
So my search now needs to be for the Winslow name.
Interesting what you said about those American marriage certificates. Are any available online?
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« Reply #34 on: Friday 21 June 19 09:45 BST (UK) »
Haven't found anything for either Samuel or Alice Swinnerton in the divorce records.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/#4-divorce-case-files-1858-1937

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« Reply #35 on: Friday 21 June 19 09:46 BST (UK) »

Haven't come across a transcription of Samuel / Martha marriage online at moment.

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