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Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« on: Sunday 23 June 19 22:33 BST (UK) »
The relative who gave me this photo has dementia and can’t remember who it is. Can anyone confirm it is the Hussars and determine era, rank and regiment from the picture so that I can help her work it out??

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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 June 19 11:25 BST (UK) »
Royal Horse Artillery maybe? site for Hussars,

www.hussards-photos.com/UK_home.htm

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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 June 19 12:42 BST (UK) »
Almost certainly Hussars, judging by the 6 lines of braid.
As to which - there are no collar-dogs for identification ;D
Collar-dogs started to be used in the early 1900's.

Not the 11th - they had red trousers.
The plume on the busby looks to be a single colour (white?), so not 4th, 10th, 15th, or 18th.
21st had different headgear.

That leaves us with 3rd, 7th, 8th, 13th, 14th, 19th or 20th ::)
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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 June 19 14:02 BST (UK) »
Do you share the same County with your relation and going back to the 1880's? This super photograph may be Yeomanry Hussars. 
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.


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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 June 19 14:21 BST (UK) »
My relative is from Oxfordshire. A Quick look at the Oxfordshire Yeomanry uniform suggests they had a purple plume so I don’t think it’s them. I also wondered what the four chevrons possibly with an emblem above them mean on his right arm? we can’t work out if it is her grandfather born 1862 died 1912 or her great grandfather born 1829 died 1910 .
Does the shorthaired Busby suggest a certain era? I also can’t see any pictures with the plume exactly like that on the Hussars webpage mentioned by a previous poster they are all much longer, but there are some similar on Uniformology.com from 1880-1902. Or is the length of the plume to do with rank?? So many questions!

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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 June 19 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hopefully, someone with knowledge will see your Post. Any chance of the back of the photo for dating purposes. He was a senor NCO, four chevrons and something above.
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.

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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 June 19 15:07 BST (UK) »
Hopefully, someone with knowledge will see your Post. Any chance of the back of the photo for dating purposes. He was a senor NCO, four chevrons and something above.
The back had a copyright stamp from a newspaper (I forget which one now, should have taken a photo).

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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 June 19 15:24 BST (UK) »
Hopefully, someone with knowledge will see your Post. Any chance of the back of the photo for dating purposes. He was a senor NCO, four chevrons and something above.

Specialist ranks had 4 chevrons.
E.G. Regimental Quartermaster, with an 8 petal flower above.
See: http://www.uniformology.com/HUSSARS-08.html
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Re: Help identifying uniform possibly Hussars
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 09:52 BST (UK) »
Definitely the grandfather. If not Regular, could be Royal Bucks Hussars c1892/3 (uniform changes). Unfortunately, the busby bag is not visible. He has the white plume. There's something suspicious. On the face of it, blue collar and cuffs. However, see his left arm cuff, I don't think it's photo fading. RBH had uniforms of blue mixed with 'invisible green' only visible in 'a certain light'. He should have a red collar. All NCO chevrons in RBH Hussars were surmounted by a crown. No doubt K Garrard can confirm or offer another solution.   
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.