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BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« on: Monday 24 June 19 07:15 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestor who was apparently born in Ohio circa 1867. It appears the family were in in USA sometime after 1863 until maybe late 1869 as child born in Scotland in Feb 1870. His name was David Kirkwood TORRANCE on his death the notice in New Zealand it said born Ohio USA and said "Ohio Newspapers please copy". His parents were James TORRANCE and Elizabeth frmly AITKEN.

They had other children with them from Scotland and there may have been a second son James Kirkwood TORRANCE born in 1869, born in Ohio??? as haven't found his birth. In 1870 they were back in Scotland.  The father/husband was a Miner.  TYIA. Glenda

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 June 19 22:32 BST (UK) »
I don't know where you would look. They missed the 1860 and 1870 censuses, and Ohio didn't have an 1865 census to my knowledge. (some states took their own census every 10 yrs in the 5th year.) And I haven't seen birth records that early in Ohio either.

Were they well enough off to buy land or have a birth notice in the paper? Doesn't sound like it if they went back after only a few years.

The "Ohio papers please copy" tells you that someone in New Zealand thought that someone in Ohio would be interested in knowing about his death. Did he have relatives there? Is that where they went? That might narrow down your search.
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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 00:57 BST (UK) »
I'm not finding a marriage for James Torr*nce & Elizabeth Ai*ken in Scotland

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 05:59 BST (UK) »
I said earlier that I didn't know where you could look. Have you tried familysearch.org? They have a lot of US records. And ancestry.com of course. Otherwise, you might have to narrow it down to the county they were in and hope the records were kept and are still around.

Was he a miner in the US? That might narrow it down to southeast Ohio, but don't hold me to it. I'm only going by memory, not by actual knowledge or research. Google '19th century mining in Ohio' or something like that, and see what it says. Add 'coal' if you want. I can't think of anything else they would be mining in Ohio. There weren't any mines in Cuyahoga Co. where I grew up, and I doubt if any in northern Ohio. And western OH is too flat.

Definitely try to figure out why his obit said 'Ohio papers please copy'. Throw the surnames or variants into familysearch or ancestry.com with location = Ohio and  see what comes up for the 1860s and forward.

edit to add: include the surname Kirkwood, since they used that as a second given name.
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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 06:20 BST (UK) »
I'm not finding a marriage for James Torr*nce & Elizabeth Ai*ken in Scotland

Annie
A few trees have his parents as James Torrance and Margaret Kirkwood

There is this marriage 14 April 1849 Bothwell Lanark
James Torrance
Margaret Kirkwood

And his wife was Elizabeth Aitken
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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 12:33 BST (UK) »
A few trees have his parents as James Torrance and Margaret Kirkwood

There is this marriage 14 April 1849 Bothwell Lanark
James Torrance
Margaret Kirkwood

And his wife was Elizabeth Aitken
Rosie

Rosie, sorry, not following...

"And his wife was Elizabeth Aitken"

Where does Elizabeth fit, is she a 2nd wife possibly?

Edit...I've got it now having looked at a tree!  ::)

The wife of David Kirkwood Torrance was Elizabeth Aitken


Annie

Add...Above tree has this for David Kirkwood...
"Birth (Alternative) 27 May 1866 Carfin, Bothwell, Scotland"  ???

Birth of brother John Kirkwood Torrance 27 Jun 1869

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQYV-JYX

Marriage of John Kirkwood;

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24K-YCFH

Son of John Kirkwood;

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q242-MQS5

Death of John Kirkwood

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG6K-NSC6

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:37 BST (UK) »
Deleted, found the info. to my question after my post.


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:38 BST (UK) »
Wife of David Kirkwood Torrance  ;D ;D

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:42 BST (UK) »
I  think this is the family on the 1851 census address 32,Colliery Square Bothwell Lanarkshire
James Torrance age 22 born about 1829 Old Monkland (miner )
Margaret Torrance age 20 born Barony Lanarkshire
Andrew Torrance age 1 born Bothwell
Agnes Stevenson age 10 neice

Rosie