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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 13:54 BST (UK) »
1871 Census transcribed on Ancestry as Tomaro instead of Torrance
James age 42 (foreman in coal pit )
Margaret age 41
Richard 16
William 14, Thomas 12, Agnes 8,
David age 4 place of birth America U S A
John 7, all births for children in Scotland James Torrance & Margaret Kirkwood
Daniel Lindsay age 3 boarder
The family all in New Zealand later

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 14:41 BST (UK) »
Wife of David Kirkwood Torrance  ;D ;D

Rosie

It's strange how we interpret things at times, when I looked at it later (having found what you meant) it was clear as day ;D

I've edited my post and added to it.

Not sure why the tree owner thinks David K was born in Scotland?

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 18:06 BST (UK) »
Assuming James was a miner in Ohio as in Scotland:

OHIO MINES
Ohio’s coal region covers thirty-two counties, and is located to the south and east of a line that would stretch roughly from Portsmouth through Zanesville to Youngstown.
http://www.miningartifacts.org/Ohio-MInes.html

see Google maps for locations.

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searching at familysearch.org
last name: Torrance
born: Scotland, 1800 to 1840
residence: Ohio, 1860 to 1870

4 results:
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eliminated: Jennett Torrance, in Cincinnati. no mines in the area, children born 24 years earlier in Indiana

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eliminated: Lilly Dorrance, born 1804, Scotland, living in Jefferson County, Ohio. coal country but husband Samuel Dorrance was born in Pennsylvania, and was a farmer.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6VL-3S7

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maybe: John Torrance, b 20 May 1834, Scotland, parents: Hugh Torrance and Janet Allen, an iron molder, died in New Concord, Muskingum County, 1909.
borderline coal country, but he's not a miner

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8Z5-PBL

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maybe: James Torrance, born about 1840, no location. married 1861 in Guernsey County.
rich coal country, but need more information

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XD7Z-XXB

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same search using Kirkwood
2 results, eliminated both: a lady in Columbus (no coal), a man in Wiliams County (as far from coal as you can get and still be in Ohio.)

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so your best bets, if your James went to Ohio because he knew someone, are:

the James Torrance, b c 1840, who married in Guernsey County.
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the man who died in Muskingum County. at least you know he was born in Scotland.

Can you trace either of them back to Bothwell Lanark?
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 18:16 BST (UK) »
When did David Kirkwood TORRANCE die in New Zealand?
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 18:28 BST (UK) »
When did David Kirkwood TORRANCE die in New Zealand?

David Kirkwood Torrance died 1939 Dunedin New Zealand

Tree's on Ancestry have a birth date of 27 May 1866 Ohio not seeing anything on the birth index

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 18:50 BST (UK) »
1861 census at 17 Napiers Sq, Bothwell, Lanarkshire - transcribed on Ancestry as 'Farrance'.

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 22:41 BST (UK) »
Here's a Torrance family in Ohio closer to David Torrance's death date. The trouble is they were from Kirkcaldy, Scotland, which looks to me like it is too far from Bothwell to be connected.

1940 Cross Creek Township, Jefferson County
James Torrance, 49 born Scotland
Catherine, 49, Scotland
Magnus 23, Scotland
Catherine, 18, Scotland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KWFW-9FF

in 1930 more of the family was home, Roderick (b 1913) Annie (b 1915), Norman (1924), and James (1927/8). All but son James were born in Scotland. The father arrived 1924, all others in 1927. The passenger manifest says Kirkcaldy for the children's place of birth.

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Here's an older couple, in the same county, but I couldn't find as much information on them. I don't know if they had children.

1910 Steubenville, Jefferson County, Ohio
James Torrance, 62, Scotland
Mary Torrance, 61, Scotland
they were married about 1867
emigrated 1888

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLXC-YMS

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1920 Census in Steubenville, Jefferson County, Ohio
James Torrance, b about 1848, Scotland
Mary Torrance, b about 1849, Scotland
both arrived 1887

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDBY-TYL

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These were the two families that jumped out at me when looking at familysearch for Torrance, Ohio, 1930 to 1940, because of the tie to Scotland and the area of Ohio they lived in.

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Bottom line, if I was going to go county to county looking for David Kirkwood Torrance's birth in Ohio, I would start in Jefferson County  and work outward.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 23:11 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage for 'a' James Torrance & Mary Stewart 1870 Blantyre (Lanark) if any help?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: BIRTH in OHIO c1867 of Scottish Son
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 23:30 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage for 'a' James Torrance & Mary Stewart 1870 Blantyre (Lanark) if any help?

Annie

Something tells me that was the older gentleman's wife's name, but I forget now which record it was on. So that could be them.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham