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Re: Robert Forbes - Royal Navy Commander
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 11:58 BST (UK) »
I think the circumstantial evidence is strong. Your man Robert Charles was born in France, so was Charles Ragueneau Pecco Forbes. There was no other Robert Forbes serving as an officer in the Royal Navy in the 1820's/1830's.

Here is Robert Charles in the 1860 Liverpool Directory:

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Re: Robert Forbes - Royal Navy Commander
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 15:06 BST (UK) »
It's interesting that the obituary in the United Service Magazine (which also appears in some newpapers) refers to him as "Commander Robert Forbes", but says further down that "Lieut. Forbes.... was never promoted".

It is clear that he had command of some small ships as a Lieutenant:

The hired armed cutter Griffin in 1804/5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hired_armed_cutter_Griffin
The gun brig Exertion in 1806 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/16131/page/439
The hired armed cutter Duke of York in 1807 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/16119/page/236
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Re: Robert Forbes - Royal Navy Commander
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 15:51 BST (UK) »
"September 22d, in  Canada, at the residence her son-in-law, J. Wallis, Esq., Ellen Forbes, formerly of Hastings, Sussex, relict of the late Lieut. Robert Forbes, R.N., aged 82 years"


Hastings and St Leonards Observer 21 October 1871
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Re: Robert Forbes - Royal Navy Commander
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 17:25 BST (UK) »
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the obituary in the United Service Magazine (which also appears in some newpapers) refers to him as "Commander Robert Forbes", but says further down that "Lieut. Forbes.... was never promoted".


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relict of the late Lieut. Robert Forbes, R.N

There's also an 1842 newspaper mention that he was on a Lieutenant's pension. I think that in this case "commander" was a courtesy title that he was entitled to use by virtue of having had independent command in the Navy, notwithstanding that his substantive rank was Lieutenant.
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Re: Robert Forbes - Royal Navy Commander
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 June 19 18:40 BST (UK) »
Been doing some more digging on Robert. Appears he had several children, some born in France and one born in Valparaiso, Chile. The most famous of his children was indeed Charles Rageneau Pecco Forbes. I have reference to Charles in Robert's will of 1847 as one of his four children. I also have a copy of Charle's service record in which he served over 27 years in the Navy and retired with a yearly pension of 400 in around 1873. The list of ships he served on is extensive - most as Master, including the Victory and Spiteful. It seems that he was one of three captains that undertook a daring mission in Crimea that saw his awarded a 5th class (Knight) Legion D'Honour by the French. Very interesting and humbling to have such a great man as an ancestor.