Richard Westall - death England or Australia ?

[GagaGram]

I'm trying to locate the death record of Richard Westall,either in England or Australia.He was born circa 1807 Rochdale,Lancs. and was married in 1825 Rochdale to Mary Collinge. They had 2 children,James,born 1824 and Edward Frances in 1826/27.

Richard was convicted at Lancaster Quarter Sessions in Jan.1832 for stealing a calf from a Rochdale slaughterhouse. He was sentenced to 7yrs. confinement ,arriving in Van Diemens Land in Aug.1832.I can not find any record of his prison release or his death in Australia. If Richard returned to England,I've not been able to locate him in any census or any death record.

Mary,his wife,  is listed as married in 1841 census,living with her sons,James and Edward. They have all been found in future census records. Mary apparently never remarried.

Any advice or help in finding when & where Richard died would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Gaga

[matthewj64]

Convict record for Richard Westall per Lord William Bentinck here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nz1/

Sentence time expired and certificate of freedom granted at end of 1838
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4160891

A Richard Westall, passenger on the Comet for Swan River (Western Australia) and Batavia in early 1839
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8749411

His convict record mentions his "pay stopped for 3 months" as sub-overseer, so he likely had accumulated some money to enable him to travel.

M

[matthewj64]

A Richard Westall alias Richard Lovett, charged with stealing clothing in 1849 at Guildford, WA
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3170997

[garstonite]

I'm trying to locate the death record of Richard Westall,either in England or Australia.He was born circa 1807 Rochdale,Lancs. and was married in 1825 Rochdale to Mary Collinge. They had 2 children,James,born 1824 and Edward Frances in 1826/27.

Richard was convicted at Lancaster Quarter Sessions in Jan.1832 for stealing a calf from a Rochdale slaughterhouse. He was sentenced to 7yrs. confinement ,arriving in Van Diemens Land in Aug.1832.I can not find any record of his prison release or his death in Australia. If Richard returned to England,I've not been able to locate him in any census or any death record.

Mary,his wife,  is listed as married in 1841 census,living with her sons,James and Edward. They have all been found in future census records. Mary apparently never remarried.

Any advice or help in finding when & where Richard died would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Gaga

what on earth was a BOOKBINDER doing stealing a calf ??

Baptism: 14 Mar 1824 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Jas. Collinge - son of Richd. Westall, rep'd. father & Mary Collinge, Singlewoman
    Abode: Cheetham St.
    Baptised by: Jas. Aspinall, Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1827, Page 29, Entry 230
    Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 7 Jan 1827 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Edward Westall - [Child] of Richard Westall & Mary
    Abode: Cheetham Street
    Occupation: Bookbinder
    Baptised by: W. H. Hay, Vicar
    Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1827, Page 3, Entry 20
    Source: LDS Family Search
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it looks to me like he printed books - I wonder was it his own business ?

Marriage: 1 Mar 1825 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Richard Westall - Printer, Yorkshire Street
Mary Collinge - (X), Spinster, Cheetham Street
    Witness: Thos. Fletcher; D. Nield
    Married by Banns by: Jas. Aspinall Curate
    Register: Marriages 1824 - 1828 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 33, Entry 97
    Source: LDS Film 1545793
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[chempat]

what on earth was a BOOKBINDER doing stealing a calf ??

Using the skin for the books??

Seriously, who knows why anyone steals?

[majm]

Bookbinder .... he was stitched up.

JM

[sparrett]

This has caught my eye because it would seem to be a dual use of the surnames LOVETT and WESTALL

Surname  WESTALL
Given name Francis
Age    49
Father Unknown
Mother Unknown
Place of birth Unknown
Reg   445
Year    1852

Surname LOVETT
Given name Francis
Age    49
Father Unknown
Mother Unknown
Place of birth Unknown
Reg   445
Year 1850

The 2 year difference in year of death is a mystery to me

Sue

EDIT
ADDING.
They are from the West Aust. Death Index online.

[sparrett]

  They had 2 children,James,born 1824 and Edward Frances in 1826/27.

 
Gaga

Noting here that son Edward has the feminine version of the name printed here, but perhaps that was slip of the pen, intended to be FRANCIS.
I wonder if it was a family name and that being the possible reason for Richard to select it as an alias.

Just speculating really.

[CarolA3]

Mary,his wife,  is listed as married in 1841 census,living with her sons,James and Edward. They have all been found in future census records. Mary apparently never remarried.

The 1841 census didn't show anyone's marital status, so she isn't listed as married.

In 1851 she's listed as a widow with a visitor called John BRADY who is said to be married.

Carol