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maltese connection to East end
« on: Thursday 27 June 19 17:52 BST (UK) »
I am looking for info on my grandparents who were Maltese through my fathers line. (his name was Edward j nelson.) They were Mary Martha Magdalene Gardener (11 Sept 1829.Burmula) and Samuel Henry Davy (1821 Malta). they came over to the east end in the mid 1800's I think and both died in the east end of London.   :)

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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 June 19 18:57 BST (UK) »
So Edward J Nelson's parents were ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJ8C-BDK

John Frederick Nelson (b 1847-ish )&    Rose Davy (b1854-ish) who wed    01 Dec 1872 in Stepney?
Rose's father being Samuel Henry Davy
John's father being John Ibbotson Nelson

Possible death reg
Samuel Henry Davy Apr-May-Jun 1907 West Ham district
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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 June 19 19:22 BST (UK) »
Birth registration(s) which may/may not be relevant
DAVY, ELLEN  MARY JOSEPHINE    GARDNER  1849  S Qtr in GREENWICH  Vol 05  Page 198
DAVY, JOSEPHINE  MARY     GARDNER  1851  M Qtr in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION  Vol 07  Page 184
DAVY, EMMA  THERESA     GARDNER  1852  D 1/4 in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 513
DAVY, ROSE       GARDNER 1854  D 1/4 in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 492
DAVY, SAM       GARDNER  1857  M Qtr in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 594
DAVY, WILLIAM       GARDNER  1859  J Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 485
DAVY, JAMES  CHARLES     GARDNER  1861  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 473
DAVY, LILY  MAY     GARDNER  1864  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 490
DAVY, LILLEY  JANE     GARDNER  1866  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 463
DAVY, ANNE       GARDNER  1870  J Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 490



1871 census.
Samuel Henry is Devonshire-born.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8T-8CT


1881 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27S-229J
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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 June 19 22:11 BST (UK) »
There are several sites that list Maltese family names but I cannot see anything matching so it is a possibility that both were children of serving British military personnel from British/British or British/Maltese parentage which would make them British rather than Maltese. Maps show that Burmula is a district within the old Valetta fortifications where the military were based so the military line is a good chance. I believe that FindMyPast still list overseas military births so it might be a worth seeing if anybody can have a look on there as a starter.
Good hunting - GedB

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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 June 19 13:32 BST (UK) »
Baptism Indep Chapel Stoke Dameral.
Samuel Henry Davy s of Samuel Davy and Mary nee Lanay carpenter in Navy Mouice? Town born 7 Oct 1821 bapt 26th.
Siblings Emma Jane 28.4.1819,Henry Lacey 2.12.1823 and Jane Harding Davy 14.12.1825.
The couple had married at Anthony Cornwall 6.7.1818 -Samuel Davy of HMS Arethusa and Mary Larrey sojourner.
wit James Larry/Levey and Grace Lean
There is also a weird bit abput with consent of parents but I've only seen the transcript so don't know which.
There is a possible death for Samuel senior  Burmuda Malta 13.10.1827.

Son Samuel Henry Davy joins the Navy as an engineers boy 31/5/1839 on the Gorgan.
15.8.1842 engineer William and Mary
10.10.1842 Greyson
7 Feb 1845 Malta on the Sampson
Acting engineer allotment to his wife Mary 1846 .She was of 2 Chapel St Torpoint and he was on the Sampson.Marriage Malta 11.12.1845.
2.1.1850 Blenheim
3.5.1850 Ajax
Haslow Hospital 25.5.1851
discharged bad conduct  6.3.1852


There is a family tree for Mary Martha M Gardener with parents Anthony Vincent Gardener and Josephine Tregomay.

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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 June 19 11:20 BST (UK) »
Hi
It looks like Samuel Davy is some how related to the following family in the Devonport/Plymouth area
Henry Davy shipwright married  Jane Harding at East Teignmouth 30.11.1766
wit William Courtier and Richard Medland
Henry buried at Stoke Dameral  25.6.1831 of Heorge Lane born 1743

Children for the couple I can see
Jane and Mary 27.8.1771 East Teignmouth
Loveday 8.12.1774 E Teignmouth
John 21.9.1777 Stoke D.
Henry 4.2.1780 Stoke D
Hanna 5.11.1788 St Morrice Wesl Ind Chapel

Samuel must be a younger son or grandson

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Re: maltese connection to East end
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 June 19 11:56 BST (UK) »
Hi
Here's a bit more on the Gardeners -assuming that family tree is right
Anthony Vincent Gardner buried 23.11.1841 Malta age 34 shipwright HMS dockyard

Ann minor d of above m 29.4.1837 Hamilton Milburn 21 + of Isle of Man quartermaster
Elizabeth21 + m 14.11.1838 William Robert William 21~+ of Bristol HMs Volcano
James George Pink Gardner bapt 13.4.1833
Thereasa minor d of Anthony of Guernsey HMS shipyard m 18.6.1833 John Scott widow Selsea boatswain HMS Rainbow

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