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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 30 June 19 23:05 BST (UK) »
Mabel, yes I would like anything about the rest of the family now, please.  I am struggling to find the workhouse entry (that is listed on FS), but on Ancestry, even using various wrong spellings of Griffeth/Griffiths.

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Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

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My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #19 on: Monday 01 July 19 09:16 BST (UK) »
Try using Wm Henry Griffeth  :)

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #20 on: Monday 01 July 19 11:29 BST (UK) »
Jen, excellent.  Your fuzzy searching is superb.  I tried all sorts of versions.  I am impressed and grateful.

Catherine Griffiths married my grandfather's bother.  I recently made contact with the great granddaughter of Catherine's sister Violet.  I will pass this on.  William was an orchestral piccolo player.

My great grandmother ran the General Jackson pub, where William Henry Griffiths was staying in 1901.

Is it usual to refer to workhouse inmates as patients?  I looked at the summary pages as well.

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Loughborough and Loughbrough, (London, Hull, Pirton, Durham & Hartlepool);
Watson, (Bedlington, Jarrow & Hartlepool);
Ballard & Glassop (E. London); 
Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

I use GRAMPS v5.0 software. 

My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #21 on: Monday 01 July 19 14:59 BST (UK) »
Is it usual to refer to workhouse inmates as patients?

Workhouses had infirmaries which served the medical needs of the local population, not just the inmates.  People could be born in the workhouse infirmary, have medical treatment there, and maybe die in it, without ever having been a pauper inmate.  They would be described as patients.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #22 on: Monday 01 July 19 15:05 BST (UK) »
Carol, you are always so helpful.  Looking through the several pages there do seem to be many 'patients'.  And a couple of lunatics.  Where workhouses used as dumping grounds for people with health problems?

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Loughborough and Loughbrough, (London, Hull, Pirton, Durham & Hartlepool);
Watson, (Bedlington, Jarrow & Hartlepool);
Ballard & Glassop (E. London); 
Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

I use GRAMPS v5.0 software. 

My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #23 on: Monday 01 July 19 15:19 BST (UK) »
Martin, it's a huge and fascinating subject in which I am not an expert, so I recommend that you consult Peter Higginbotham who is.

His impressive website is here:  http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

See you in a month ;D

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #24 on: Monday 01 July 19 15:46 BST (UK) »
Were workhouses used as dumping grounds for people with health problems?

Not really.  On the census page where your chap is listed, there are 30 names in all.  He is one of 7 patients; the other 23 are inmates whose reason for being there was that they couldn't support themselves financially.  Many would have stayed there for a short time only.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #25 on: Monday 01 July 19 15:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carol.  I will start reading.

Martin
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Loughborough and Loughbrough, (London, Hull, Pirton, Durham & Hartlepool);
Watson, (Bedlington, Jarrow & Hartlepool);
Ballard & Glassop (E. London); 
Leggett (Corton, Scarborough, Hartlepool); 
Young, Adamson & Wilson, (Hartlepool). 

I use GRAMPS v5.0 software. 

My ancestors are probably turning in their graves, not that I can actually find any of them.

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Re: Innkeeper & orchestral musician, General Jackson Inn, High Street, Hartlepool
« Reply #26 on: Monday 01 July 19 19:12 BST (UK) »
Of the other siblings

Annie - not much luck yet

William Henry. Can't find on 1911, but there's a marriage of a William H Griffiths to Alice Braithwaite n West Hartlepool in Q2 1920 - Hartlepool    Vol 10a   p442

A matching couple on 1939 - William about the right age

William H Griffiths
Death Age:    77
Q1  1966
West Hartlepool  Vol 1a, p1319

(will need further checking to confirm)


Sorry -got my William Henry and William Edwin confused

William Edwin Griffiths
Age at Death:    1
Q2    1891
Hull  Vol   9d p234