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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 01:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reminder about 1901 - I'd forgotten the description showed the same house. :-)
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 08:08 BST (UK) »
So it was built sometime between 1853 (Griffiths) and 1901 (census). Is there any other way of narrowing the date down even more?
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 08:48 BST (UK) »
Looks as if it's been extended at some time going by the chimney stacks & windows.

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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 08:50 BST (UK) »
Where were the family living when the children were born?

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish-records-what-is-available/property-records
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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 10:35 BST (UK) »
Skoosh, it's quite possible it was extended.

Heywood, thanks for the site - a great reference.

The children of Anne Lane (nee Keating) were born in Kilcurley and Ballycahane between 1864 and 1886.

The children of Johanna Keating (nee Murnane) were born in Gurrane between 1881 and 1891.

Anne and Johanna were both children of Edmund Keating who died in Gurrane in 1885.

Edmund's uncle, Jeffrey Keating, died in Knocknagranshy in 1870. His last remaining child, Ellen Keating, died there in 1895.

By 1901 the Lane family were occupying the main house. Johanna and family occupied one of the smaller ones. (According to a family story, her husband, James, had been disinherited because he married beneath him. He died at Knocknagranshy in 1897.)

So the question is,  when was the house built and by whom?



England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 10:41 BST (UK) »
Why not email a local Estate Agent?
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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 10:49 BST (UK) »
I did :-) but didn't receive a reply. :-(
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 12:23 BST (UK) »
Google map link http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o02/
You can see it's build from red brick, so when did they start using brick to build houses?
See where the plaster has fallen away under the bottom window on the left.
If the window frames are original than the sash windows are also a clue, they aren't broken up into small panes but I think they may have been replaced same time as the front door.
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Re: How old is this house?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 03 July 19 12:47 BST (UK) »
Well spotted! It seems bricks were used to build houses in the 17th century. Yes, I think you're right about the windows.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk