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Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« on: Saturday 06 July 19 16:39 BST (UK) »
Jospeh born 1856, Llangendeirne, mason.
Wary Ann born 1860, Llangendeirne.

In 1891 I have them living with their family in Penrheol, Cilgarw, Llangendeirne.

I can't find anything about them before 1891 and would welcome any earlier evidence of either or both of them.

This line has emanated from a 99 cM DNA match that I share with a maternal cousin so the connection is most likely to be from somewhere around Brechfa, LLanegwad, Felingwm or Llanllawddog. Less likely would be from around Llanybydder or Rhydcymerau.

They are the maternal grandparents of my match's mother and I will copy this post again for the paternal grandparents.

Link to other post:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815307.0
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 July 19 16:43 BST (UK) »
When & where did they wed.
What's mary Ann's Maiden name?
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 July 19 17:02 BST (UK) »
Have you tried searching children’s births here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Likely matches show mmn Thomas

Marriage
March quarter 1877 has a possible marriage of Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Thomas.
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 July 19 21:02 BST (UK) »
1881 - Gwndwn Llwyd, CIlcarw

Joseph Jones    26
Maryanne Jones    21
Sara Jane Jones    3
Mary Jones    21 months

Ref: RG11; 5394; 25; 11;


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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 July 19 15:38 BST (UK) »
OK on your other thread re Daniel Jones b c 1852 Llanelly is he supposed to be a brother of this Joseph, as from my findings on the other thread he was a Jenkins b Carmarthen?
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 July 19 15:53 BST (UK) »
I don't wish to keep filling this thread with "thank yous" but I really am very grateful for all your help in both threads. It has helped enormously.

I just need to find the missing link to my tree... still.
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
gedmatch.com A006809
Kit uploaded to familytreedna.com B171041
Y-DNA R-M269 & mtDNA U5b1f

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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 July 19 15:58 BST (UK) »
I don't wish to keep filling this thread with "thank yous" but I really am very grateful for all your help in both threads. It has helped enormously.

I just need to find the missing link to my tree... still.

I am not up with how DNA results work, but if the Jenkins DNA gets into the chain how does that affect the results?
Who were the children of both Daniel and Joseph that link your DNA?
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Re: Joseph Jones and Mary Ann Jones
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 July 19 16:08 BST (UK) »
Well keyboard86, that is an "interesting" question. I wrote twice to the person who matches as a suggested 3rd cousin but received no reply. He's in my tree but since he is "living" his details won't appear.

I don't wish to be genealogically 'pushy' so that's why I've started with his maternal grandparents.

DNA results will tell me if there is another test out there who is a DNA match with me. It will sometimes identify other tests that share some of the same DNA. My maternal cousin's is one such shared match hence the elimination of the paternal line.

If the matching person has uploaded a tree, I might be able to identify either a shared ancestor or someone close (same village, etc.) but in this case there is no tree to compare with mine.
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
gedmatch.com A006809
Kit uploaded to familytreedna.com B171041
Y-DNA R-M269 & mtDNA U5b1f