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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 07 July 19 22:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks....Not as good as yours though.
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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 July 19 00:42 BST (UK) »
In response to Viktoria's comment, aren't the majority of nursery rhymes based on historical fact?
Ring a ring a rosy comes to mind.
Very clever and well done, Philip.
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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 July 19 11:45 BST (UK) »
I think they may have been a form of political satire in their day.
.Jack Horner was an agent for HenryVIII, and at the dissolution of the monasteries was reputed to have put his hand into the bundle of deeds he had commandeered for Henry,  and took out a good one, a”plum”for himself.
The plague of course ,Ring a ring of roses.
Strange they have lasted so long but as children’s rhymes.
You always need something you have had for years as soon as you have given it away.
Had a super book “ The Oxford book of Nursery Rhymes”but gave it to someone doing a thesis on them ,as social history.
I am enjoying all the rhymes,Thankyou.
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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 July 19 12:23 BST (UK) »
The plague of course ,Ring a ring of roses.
Strange they have lasted so long but as children’s rhymes.

I thought the 'plague' theory had been pretty well discredited as there was no serious evidence to support it.

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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 July 19 12:44 BST (UK) »
Actually it does fit the symptoms very well,but there was doubt I agree.

Oranges and Lemons,purportedly was the route a condemned man would take on the way to his execution,which explains the chopper to chop  off your head.
Many of the churches mentioned could have been destroyed in the great fire.
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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 July 19 13:18 BST (UK) »
Actually it does fit the symptoms very well,but there was doubt I agree.
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No, it doesn't fit the symptoms at all. As Carol said, it has been completely discredited.

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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 July 19 13:47 BST (UK) »
Fitting the symptoms and actually  being about the plague itself are two different things .I did say there was doubt
The ring of roses are the symptoms of the bubonic .That is the rash or buboes,large circular swellings noticibly of glands.
 The  atishoo those of the pneumonic .The sneezing etc.
P.S,I forgot to put in the septicaemic plague.
This does have a rash,and body parts affected do go black as it causes gangrene.Hence The Black Plague.

All fall down speaks for itself.
So Mike, what do you think are the symptoms?
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Re: "Oranges and lemons" - Cornish version
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 July 19 22:25 BST (UK) »
How quickly a thread can wander off in different ways  :) :)

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I couldn't agree with you more....I was waiting for verse three Philip  ;D

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