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Driscoll Brick Wall
« on: Tuesday 09 July 19 11:17 BST (UK) »
I have asked on a few groups I am in, but to no avail.  Parts of it have been discussed on rootschat also, but I don't seem any closer to knocking down my brick wall.

For reference, a previous Rootschat query

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767985.msg6217363#msg6217363


So, further to the information stated in the above link. 

Margaret Johnston was most likely born in 1841, not 1832 as originally thought.  There is a margaret Johnston born in Limerick, to a John Johnston, shoe maker and an Eliza Blackwell. 

Timothy year of birth (1823??) still unknown and place of birth unknown.  He was '59' when his death was registered in 1882, but i have three relatives who have aged by ten years when they were registered dead so i'm not sure how correct his age was. 

I thought I would trace my great granddads siblings...

Daniel born 1867, in Cashel Tipperary.  I thought originally he had died as a death registration for a one year old Daniel Driscoll in Kildare exsists, and by this time they may have moved to Kildare (based on Catharine Driscoll being born in Kildare 1869).  But given that the short service record states my great grandads next of kin was brother Daniel Driscoll, and a potentional school record (will try to find and link that also ) also states a brother Daniel... I'm undecided.  I've searched for possible marriages and travel documents, but to no avail. 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=IRE%2FIRESCHOOLS%2F007634794%2F00529&parentid=IRE%2FNATIONAL%2FSCHOOL%2FREGISTER%2F107109



Catharine Driscoll born 1869, Kildare... Cant find a death for her as a child, and a marriage would be like looking for a needle in a hay stack, seeing as the family seem to move about so much I honestly don't know where to look.

Dinah Driscoll - This one, I thought, would be on the money.  A search for Dinah Driscoll on irishgenealogy shows two born - One in Skibberean in 1869 and my lass here born in 1972 in Kildare. 

But then another another brick wall.  A death for a Dianna Driscoll in Dublin in 1891, aged 20, from Skibberean - so most likely the Dinah born in 1869 - but the age fits more with 1872.

Then I found a death record in 1905 for a Matilda Lawson in Brooklyn New York - parents were Dinah Driscoll from Ireland and Louis Lawson from Sweden.  Matilda is aged 0 when buried in a cemetery that no longer exsists .
 (Link didn;t work?

Matilda Lawson
New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949





Name:   
Matilda Lawson
Event Type:   
Death
Event Date:   
14 Feb 1905
Event Place:   
Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Gender:   
Female
Age:   
0
Marital Status:   
Unknown
Race:   
White
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1905
Birthplace:   
New York, N.Y.
Burial Date:   
15 Feb 1905
Burial Place:   
New York, Kings, New York
Cemetery:   
Co. Farms
Father's Name:   
Louis Lawson
Father's Birthplace:   
Sweeden
Mother's Name:   
Dina Driscoll
Mother's Birthplace:   
Ireland)

Now, I can't find a birth for Matilda, a marriage for Dinah and Louis, a travel document for either of them or a mention of them on the census for new york 1900 or 1910.

Margaret Driscoll born 1877 - died in 1878, this is in Celbridge where the family seem to end up.

I honestly just do not know what to do now.  I have tried all avenues - I can't find a death for Margaret Johnston (Driscoll) after 1883 when she is in prison, this is the last I find of her.  I have searched irishgenealogy, rootsireland, findmypast, ancestry and familysearch, for all combinations of names and ages and locations. 

DNA - I match a few 'Driscolls' but a few seem to link, I match a handful of people who are descended from Florance Driscoll  (male) who was born in 1821, and eventually moved to Kent, England.  It seems no one has found Florance parents - but given the age I have considered he may be a possible sibling to my ancestor Timothy Driscoll.  So I've looked for a Timothy Driscoll and a Florance Driscoll - both with Timothy Driscoll as a father, but this hasn't given me any answers either. 

Should I just admit defeat now?  I know The Driscolls originate from Cork, and I have looked there - But there are SO MANY. 

I am so sorry that I have rambled on. 
Nottingham/Derby - Alvey, Machin, Scott, Stevenson, Redfern, Lowe, Coupe, Bowler, Strutt, Miller
Worcestershire - Burrows, Smith, Machin, Hardman, Nash, Sanders/Saunders, Davis, Adams
Buckinghamshire - Burrows, Woodward, Adams
Ireland (Dublin/Malahide/Cork) - O'Driscoll, Henvy, Gallaghan

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Re: Driscoll Brick Wall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 July 19 12:15 BST (UK) »
You are really better off adding to your other thread and include Links to "things found" in https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767985.msg6201891#msg6201891 so people can see what records are being referred to.

e.g.

"In 1898, they aren in Dublin and have baptised first daughter, Mary Ann O'Driscoll..."   
  Where?


"Baptism record for Cornelius fits in Naas, Kildare, 1874.  Parents Timothy and Margaret nee Johnston.  A few more children are found, Daniel (1867, Tipperary), Catherine (1869 Kildare), Dinah (1872, Kildare), Margaret (1877, Kildare). "   Can you post Links to all of these so people can look at them?

"Finally, in 1900.  There is a baptism (first name missing) for a ? Driscoll, born in 1868 but baptised in 1900, living in Dublin, parents Timothy Driscoll and Margaret Johnston, both dead.  There is latin on it and I believe somebody roughly translated in via facebook that the baptism was to change religion to catholic.  That same year/month, Mary Driscoll, of the same adress as the baptism, marries Thomas Sheridan....."   Can you post Links so people can look at these?

Otherwise someone could waste an hour or more trying to find things that have already been found
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Re: Driscoll Brick Wall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 July 19 12:48 BST (UK) »

 Catharine Driscoll born 1869, Kildare... Cant find a death for her as a child, and a marriage would be like looking for a needle in a hay stack, seeing as the family seem to move about so much I honestly don't know where to look. 
 

Not really....  Marriage results for Catharine Driscoll from ? / ? / 1888 to ? / ? / 1896 has 25 results, do any of these match her details?

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Re: Driscoll Brick Wall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 July 19 13:07 BST (UK) »
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10703/5902016.pdf

This one has a Timothy Driscoll, deceased, listed as father but Driscoll seems to be her maiden name, I can't make out her married name - can you?  I'm guessing at Nolan?
Nottingham/Derby - Alvey, Machin, Scott, Stevenson, Redfern, Lowe, Coupe, Bowler, Strutt, Miller
Worcestershire - Burrows, Smith, Machin, Hardman, Nash, Sanders/Saunders, Davis, Adams
Buckinghamshire - Burrows, Woodward, Adams
Ireland (Dublin/Malahide/Cork) - O'Driscoll, Henvy, Gallaghan

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Re: Driscoll Brick Wall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 July 19 16:15 BST (UK) »
It looks like:
Kate Nolan otherwise Driscoll


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