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Offline mcadamsd

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George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« on: Wednesday 10 July 19 22:09 BST (UK) »
Looking for George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope who lived on Walnut street, Seymor, Connecticut, USA around 1942 based on  a border crossing for Mary Jane Pope 16 Sep 1942 which notes her name now Martin so they married before that date.  On 8 Jul 1943 she again crossed the border.  At Calais , Maine going to 27 Glover St(?), Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut listed as home of George S Martin, Spouse.

We know little of George S Martin.  Family history has no details on his birth year or location or how Mary Jane Pope met him.

After the border crossing 8 Jul 1943 we have little info.   Family info has George S Martin passing in Maine but nothing to support that.  We have an image of Mary Jane and Jessie with a young child but no date and nothing to identify the child or location

We believe there was a son William Ross Martin but that information is from a cousin and not from a record.

We know Mary Jane Pope was born  6 AUG 1901  at Wroxeter, Huron, Ontario, Canada to Donald Clark Pope and Catherine "Kate" Cary McEwen.  We know Mary Jane was with parents in Wroxeter in the 1921 Canada census.

Mary Jane had two siblings

Donald Ross McEwen Pope ( He provided the info on the marriage and the possible child)

Birth MARCH 18, 1904 Wroxeter, Ontario, Canada
Death 1985 Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

Jessie Catherine Pope

Birth 9 JUL 1899 Wroxeter, Huron, Ontario, Canada
Death 21 MAR 1966 Vancouver, British Columbia

We have much detail on siblings.  Mary Jane and spouse remain a mystery
Dunbar, Clark,Bain, Lipp, Campbell, Pope, Barnard, Handcock, McAdams,Creath

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 22:34 BST (UK) »
There is a Clover St in Ansonia, CT.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 22:35 BST (UK) »
It appears they married in 1941.

GroomFirstLast       //   BrideFirstLast          DateMarried      CityMarried
GEORGE   MARTIN   MARY   POPE            05/11/1941        NEW HAVEN


https://www.ctatatelibrarydata.org/marriage-records/

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 23:10 BST (UK) »
1942 Ansonia City Directory
George S (Mary J) Martin, paper maker in  Seymour [CT], resides at 27 Clover, Ansonia

[didn't own the house, just resided there]
no other Martin families at that address

1948 Ansonia City Directory
George S (Mary J) Martin removed to Maine

You have to love City Directories that tell you when the person left or died :).

I was skipping some years, so I don't have the addresses from the directories between 1943 to 1947. If they turn out to matter, I will look for them later.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 23:12 BST (UK) »
This looks like it could be Mary. So perhaps George S Martin did die in Maine?
The DOB matches and her middle intial is "J"(Jane?) on the Maine death index.

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JT5D-B4H

Maine death index: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCV2-Y94

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 23:17 BST (UK) »
This appears to be George. Same location as Mary. Age is about right(b.1902) and SS number issued in CT.

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBLV-6PJ

Maine Death Index: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCV5-KZK

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 23:43 BST (UK) »
US Public Records at ancestry.com has a George S Martin on Fore St, Oxford, Maine, in the years 1994-1996. It is not unusual for the year to be later than the person's death. But, I don't find a William R[oss] Martin in Oxford, Maine. I tried Googling, and at ancestry.com.

William would have been born not long after the marriage, considering Mary Jane's age, so probably in Connecticut.
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 July 19 13:00 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for filling in many blanks.  Not sure why my searches failed to find some of this information.

We now know George was involved in the paper industry so that explains the locations. 

Still no birth location for George S or parents.  Knowing birth around 1902 may yield results in Canada.  I can find no reason Mary Jane would have been in that part of US in order to meet George Martin

Search for William continues
Dunbar, Clark,Bain, Lipp, Campbell, Pope, Barnard, Handcock, McAdams,Creath

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Re: George S Martin and Mary Jane Pope
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 July 19 15:24 BST (UK) »

Nothing about William on the death notice of Jessie.

The Province  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 23 Mar 1966, Wed  -   Page 28

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33758435/jessie_catherine_burke/

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