Author Topic: Betsal, Bestall, Bestil, Bestel, Bestle in Avoca, Co Wicklow  (Read 3459 times)

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 April 19 20:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks Aghadowey, it’s possible Hannah is from the family I’m researching but I’m unabke to find who her mother was. If her number is Anne Cullen then that’s the proof I need

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 April 19 22:18 BST (UK) »
The 1832 tithes have an entry
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp
William Law Bestall   Templelyon   Dunganstown    
Wicklow   1832 he has 43 acres but part bog and the lowest value per acres applied within that townland  There are notes Miss Bestall appears to pay for Wodfow McCaul nearby homestead and Mrs Bestall pays for William Law Bestalls homestead
the same site has ~130 Cullen in the county covering with several in same parish as Bestall
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 April 19 00:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you BallyaltikilliganG. There are two William Law Bestalls that I found One married Elizabeth French in 1873, so he is ruled out unless he’s a cousin etc.

The other died in 1867 but the civil records can pat be viewed yet online. It states he was 67 when he died meaning he was born circa 1800, his death is recorded in Rathdrum which is where my ancestors lived but I think his wife was called Catherine

It appears that there’s a total brick wall regarding William and Anne and that’s why I started looking elsewhere in England and Wales but as yet nothing again. That doesn’t mean there is nothing there are loads of records for William Bestall’s in England but In doing so I haven’t ruled out Ireland, the problem is the missing records and the records that can’t be viewed online yet I think.

Been looking for years and getting absolutely nowhere ( so many different spellings in the transcriptions of the surname isn’t helping either (a’s Interprepted as e’s and e’s interpreted as i’s) Also baptism records and birth certificates for the same people have different spellings as well. There’s at least 9 variations but mainly the difference is one L or two L’s.

To me Bestal and Bestall have got to be the correct as it appears these two are the most common ways to spell the name

Maybe one day I’ll find out but I’ve got nowhere in the past 15 years apart from last year when I found William and Anne due to find my past uploaded baptism certificates.

Thanks again

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 April 19 08:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you BallyaltikilliganG. There are two William Law Bestalls that I found One married Elizabeth French in 1873, so he is ruled out unless he’s a cousin etc.

The other died in 1867 but the civil records can pat be viewed yet online. It states he was 67 when he died meaning he was born circa 1800, his death is recorded in Rathdrum which is where my ancestors lived but I think his wife was called Catherine

 

 

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Erected by WILLIAM BESTALL Esq of Templelyon House | in memory of his son |
RICHARD FREDERICK BESTALL A.B.,T.C.D.L., R.C.S.I. | who departed September 21st
1856 | at the age of 28 years | also the above named | WILLIAM LAW BESTALL who
|died May the 30th 1867 | aged 67
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-town/target64.html


Alphabetical List of Landowners in 1870's - Names & Addresses Only
Bestall, Catherine         xxxx         Templelyon
Bestall, Eliza            xxxx         Wicklow

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/censubs/landowners-wicklow-a-c.txt



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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 April 19 08:39 BST (UK) »
HEADSTONE INSCRIPTIONS
DERG PARISH CHURCH, LOWER MAIN ST., CASTLEDERG
(C OF I)

BESTALL

To the memory of Audley CALDWELL late of the Forttown who entered into life
eternal on the 14th of October 1859 aged 60 years  also of Frederick LAW
youngest son of Margaret BESTALL who departed this life on 21st June 1860 aged
5 years also of his mother Margaret BESTALL eldest daughter of Audley CALDWELL
who exchanged mortality for life on the 19th of September 1861 aged 34 years
also James Audley second son of the late Audley CALDWELL, Esqr of Forttown who
died 28th September 1877 aged 47.
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 April 19 10:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks hallmark, I can only presume William Law x2 and Audley Bestall were related in some way to my William Bestal/Bestall. Probably a common ancestor somewhere.

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 14 April 19 19:50 BST (UK) »
I’ve had the scoring out checked and the consensus of opinion that came back was that his baptism name was initially recorded as Valentine and changed to Wm (William). A bit odd but I’ve seen that happening on other records (not helped by the slight creasing on the page)