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Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« on: Tuesday 16 July 19 10:56 BST (UK) »
Like most of you, I discovered twists and turns when putting together my family tree but I recently found an entire branch of our family I had no idea existed.

I knew my Dad had 3 brothers and 1 sister, and I was told as a child Ellen, my Aunt, died young. To me as an 11 year old, I thought that meant as a child, however my research soon showed she died aged 32. I then discovered she had in fact, got married and had 5 children before her death caused by poly-cystic kidney disease (which runs riot through my family).

As soon as I found out the 5 kids had been taken into care, I set about tracking them down and much digging and writing to Nazareth house and Facebook stalking, I found the youngest of the 5, Angela. She took several weeks to reply, worried I may be a scammer!  ;D

Fast forward to today, the remaining 3 cousins joined a family re-union with all their other cousins and we were able to tell them all about their mother, provide photos etc. They had no photos of their mother, didn't know why she died or where she was buried - all resolved now.

However, there was a father Francis, born in 1930's, in Huyton, Liverpool. Once married they settled in Bootle.

After Ellen's death Francis tried to cope with the kids by himself but 6 months later, they went into the care system. The cousins have vague memories of him visiting and being around but this tailed off. They last they knew was being informed their father had drowned in the River Mersey.

So, I know from the phone book records he was still in the house at Southport Road in 1976 but by 1978 he has completely disappeared, I can't find a death record anywhere in the UK under Frank or Francis and various spellings of L.

I would love to tell my cousins what became of the father, but I've only been doing genealogy for 2 years so my experience is limited. Can anyone give me some pointers of where to turn to next?

Thanks in advance!

P.S. Francis Anthony L who died in 2004, in Liverpool, is his son.

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 11:16 BST (UK) »
There are a half-dozen candidate births for sibling(s) of Francis (1930).

Can you trace any of those to see if they know what happened?

I can "see" Michael in the 1939 free index @ Huyton with Roby U.D.
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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 11:24 BST (UK) »
I think they have passed, trying to trace their children.

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 11:40 BST (UK) »
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They last they knew was being informed their father had drowned in the River Mersey.
Do any of them know roughly when this happened?
Where they still in care at the time?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 11:46 BST (UK) »
The oldest (who has now passed from PKD) was an adult, and had her first child but I only know this much because one of the middle children has a vague memory of being told by her older sister.  So, this points to the mid seventies but other than the phone book records, I can't narrow it down more than this.

There is a family rumour that he commited suicide, but I have no proof of this.

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 12:00 BST (UK) »
If he was born 1930 perhaps he's still alive?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 12:12 BST (UK) »
I'm seriously thinking that's a big possibility.

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 12:18 BST (UK) »
What a heartbreaking story from the outset for the family of Ellen.

Do you know who/what/where was the source of his apparent death as it seems a bit cruel to tell anyone their parent had died if untrue, just a thought?

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Re: Completing the circle - I've run out of ideas!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 13:42 BST (UK) »
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