Marriage Ballyvaghan 1902-1922

[grizzly1]

So we now see that his father was a boiler maker  wonder could that be classed as an engineer as on Mary Burns marriage in 1926
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09132/5302727.pdf

Edwards
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08926/5228699.pdf

Patrick J O'Loughlin who married Mary Burns above died 1952 with a daughter Rose as informant, he was 59/60 yrs old and a widower unfortunately i cant find a death for his wife Mary
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04485/4177169.pdf

The 1922 marriage for Mary Burns in the Union of Ballyvaghan was to 'Thomas' O'Loughlin...both gave address as Fanfore and no other info regs occupations for themselves or Father's ?

Thought it unusual ?

[hallmark]

Too many "unknowns" on the American side!

Mrs Mary O'Loughlin 'sister' address given as Ballyvaghan on Edward's Irish army enlistment form in 1922 when he was 20.

Chances are his sister was older, so probably born US too. Maybe Married there ??

No sign of Edward on 1911 CENSUS.

Is Mary and Edward to be found on U.S Census? Is sister Mary there?

Can father's Death be found?

Mary was already Married when he signed up in 1922.

At least this is what I can make out from what was posted.....

[hallmark]

Mary dtr of PATRICK to Thomas O'Loughlin 1922
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09207/5330608.pdf

already posted could be Mary!

[heywood]

Did you find out the area (in New Jersey)  where Edward was baptised?

[hallmark]

There is this

https://www.archives.gov/research/genealogy/census/online-resources#collapsepanel_66389


but don't know how to use it.

[grizzly1]

Did you find out the area (in New Jersey)  where Edward was baptised?

On 1900 census Orange county Ward 5 Essex N Jersey there is a Patrick & Mary Burns with 2 children Patrick 8 & Josephine 0...Just a possiblity that 'Josephine' may be actuallu Mary Josephine ? and that Edward was born 1902 ?

Same Census, district 4, Newark city Ward 2, Essex NJ..Patrick Leonard wife Margaret.

[heywood]

Where was the baptism though?
Wasn’t Edward baptised as Patrick Edward?

[grizzly1]

Where was the baptism though?
Wasn’t Edward baptised as Patrick Edward?

St Patricks church Jersey City, yes he was christened Patrick Edward, the baptismal cert was the only official document held by the family to link Edward to The USA.
Though the enlistment info given as  New Jersey/Usa as his birthplace seems to confirm.

[grizzly1]

I have found an Obituary in a USA newspaper which may be related to the marriage of Thomas and Mary Burns, the article relates to the death of a John J O'loughlin who was born in Farnfore in 1923 to Thomas O'Loughlin and Mary Byrnes (note the misspelling of 'BURNS).
It goes on to state that state that he came to America in 1929.

The article gives extensive information with names of sibling's and children grand-children all living in the US in 2001, im hoping to now glean some info from detail's and perhaps clarify from a descendant of Thomas & Mary Burns.