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Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« on: Tuesday 16 July 19 15:49 BST (UK) »
I also notice Edw.  I don't know if these are two separate fellows or a typo.

I am trying to read a section of the "Inquisitionum in officio rotulorum cancellariae Hiberniae asservatarum", only it looks like Chinese to me.  Can anyone please explain what it says regarding this fellow?

https://books.google.com/books?id=I1YPAQAAMAAJ&q=Broghell#v=snippet&q=Broghell&f=false

Logainme.ie seems to give two references:
1626    Broghell · Inq. Lag., 7 C I    
1634        Broghally · Inq. Lag., 26 C I

But I can only find the first one.  Can anyone find the second one?  Does it contain the name Bermingham or Bremingham for that location?  And if it is gibberish, can someone please translate it?

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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 16:27 BST (UK) »
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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 16:29 BST (UK) »
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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 17:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Hallmark.  I didn't know about that resource, but it doesn't seem to say King's County or Offaly for Bermingham.  I'm a bit uncertain if they held lands elsewhere.

The family appears in the Down Survey:
http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php#bm=Ballyboy&c=Offaly+(Kings)&p=Balliboy

I was wondering about the significance of "ruined castle."  According to folklore, Cromwell's forces attacked the castle, but I can't seem to find any historical reference.  It is not helped by the many ways the placename is spelled.

https://www.logainm.ie/en/41191

BTW, if anyone understands the significance of 1641 on the Down Survey website, please explain.  Is it actually something from 1641, or figured after Cromwell's conquest?

On the Down Survey, they are called "Irish papists."  I am a bit unsure what the last part of "Ir. papst. ppr." means.  Proprietor, maybe?  But in 1641 and 1671, they are called protestants.  I am confused about the significance of this.  Whether it means that their land was never taken, or if it was taken and then given back before 1671.


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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 17:25 BST (UK) »
I didn't look to see where they were.
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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 17:38 BST (UK) »
These are all the Laois places named in the Inq. Lag.
https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=bib%3aInq.+Lag.&con=100017&pag=-1 
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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 17:59 BST (UK) »
The Church of Ireland is a member of the Holy Catholic Church

The Church of Ireland considers itself Catholic because it is in possession of a continuous tradition of faith and practice, based on scripture and early traditions, enshrined in the Catholic creeds, together with the sacraments and apostolic ministry.

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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 18:21 BST (UK) »



I also notice Edw.  I don't know if these are two separate fellows or a typo.


Looks like you meant to add to the thread you already have!

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814524.msg6755454#msg6755454
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Re: Edm Bremingham de Broghall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 July 19 18:33 BST (UK) »
there is Birmingham stuff around...but which family are you after??

e.g.


Papers relating to the Bermingham family of Athenry, Co. Galway and the claim by Edward Bermingham to the Athenry peerage 1824. Dublin: Public Record Office, Lindsay Collection: (Extracts).



Case of Gerald Dillon, Thady Dunne and others, against some clauses in the Act for securing the protestant interest, etc., 18th c. Account of the sale of the woods at Kilbonam on the estate of Lord Athenry to A. and A. Deniston 1708.
Subjects:    
Bermingham, Edward > Athenry, 17th Lord
Deniston, Alexander
Deniston, Archibald
Dublin: Marsh's Library, Ms. Z2. 1. 7: (Extracts).
Dillon, Gerald
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